Guild Wars 2

Irenio said it when Ruby asked about weak Rangers.
Another Dev just right now said there will be one. They said there will be one before every big PvP Season.

Balance Patch – Two weeks- New PvP Season.
So this means, Balance patches may come a lot more frequently than 6 months guys.

We may fix a lot of things this time guys.

THERE IS HOPE.

There is no hope. Only more nerf

You forgot that they think thief is “really strong” because of +1 lol.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. * /cast Shadow Refuge on Khandarus *

THERE IS HOPE!

There really isn’t, our own dev doesn’t care for the class, they balance it around smacking targets that can’t fight back, oh and don’t forget the infamous “Dodging in HoT is not enough”

But Pvp seasons are probably going to be a year long

I was hopeful…but no more.

Don’t we have to fear the balance patch ? If they are more frequent, it means the nerfs will come faster and will be more numerous.

Highlie.7641:

But Pvp seasons are probably going to be a year long

Na the guys just said it won’t last a year. :p lol don’t give me mini-heart attacks man. I am young. It will last a couple month.

I hope it lasts like 3-4 months. like in Diablo III.

Simzani.4318:

Don’t we have to fear the balance patch ? If they are more frequent, it means the nerfs will come faster and will be more numerous.

judging by past experience…. yeah…..

i couldn’t help it

Kocoff.7582:

Highlie.7641:

But Pvp seasons are probably going to be a year long

Na the guys just said it won’t last a year. :p lol don’t give me mini-heart attacks man. I am young. It will last a couple month.

I hope it lasts like 3-4 months. like in Diablo III.

Latest info would be 8 weeks season.

The question you have to ask yourself is this: Do you think arena net is willing and capable of fixing the thief in a balance patch?

In tandem with: Do you think the daredevil spec can even be fixed in a balance pass?

I think the answer to both of these questions is no, but I seriously hope that I am wrong.

wolfpaq.7354:

The question you have to ask yourself is this: Do you think arena net is willing and capable of fixing the thief in a balance patch?

In tandem with: Do you think the daredevil spec can even be fixed in a balance pass?

I think the answer to both of these questions is no, but I seriously hope that I am wrong.

DD needs to be scrapped and rebuilt from scratch. There’s no amount of patches that will fix DD let alone the Thief.

haha they did tested the extra dodge on npc it worked !!!

wait guys Patch Balance preview is in a few hours!

Kocoff.7582:

wait guys Patch Balance preview is in a few hours!

do you know the exact time? is it really still coming?

knyy.6427:

Kocoff.7582:

wait guys Patch Balance preview is in a few hours!

do you know the exact time? is it really still coming?

5:41 I think pacific time

They’re covering Ranger right now, I believe Thief is next. But they’re rushing through a lot of stuff due to time.

Pistol – Damage buffs 20%+
Potent Poison – Buff to poison damage increase, but I didn’t hear the numbers.
Vigorous Recovery – 7s Vigor
Expeditions Dodger – 4s Swiftness

And then they moved on to Warrior.

Irenio just talked about it a little bit:

Patch Notes is NEXT TUESDAY

general
- all traps 5 min something.
- Rune of Vamp doesn’t work with mist form
- Reveal was bugged apparently where it used to reduce stealth duration… Now it just takes out all stealth immediately. (FML)
- Nerf Cripple

Nerfed in general

ele (D/D NERF with icebow just errthang – Mesmer (PU NERF Literally “for the good of the game”)

buffed in general
Engineer – Guardian- Necro (like a serious buff) – Ranger (huge)

Thief

-pistol damage buff 20%
- Potent poison 10 -> 33%
- Vigorous recovery 5 to 7
- epeditious dodger +

There wasn’t enough to cover everything.

Kocoff.7582:

…
Thief

-pistol damage buff 20%
- Potent poison 10 -> 33%
- Vigorous recovery 5 to 7
- epeditious dodger +

There wasn’t enough to cover everything.

Well… If that was their main thing….

Kocoff.7582:

Irenio just talked about it a little bit:

Patch Notes is NEXT TUESDAY

general
- all traps 5 min something.
- Rune of Vamp doesn’t work with mist form
- Reveal was bugged apparently where it used to reduce stealth duration… Now it just takes out all stealth immediately. (FML)
- Nerf Cripple

Nerfed in general

ele (D/D NERF with icebow just errthang – Mesmer (PU NERF Literally “for the good of the game”)

buffed in general
Engineer – Guardian- Necro (like a serious buff) – Ranger (huge)

Thief

-pistol damage buff 20%
- Potent poison 10 -> 33%
- Vigorous recovery 5 to 7
- epeditious dodger +

There wasn’t enough to cover everything.

I don’t feel good that he basically said 3 things for us…but let’s hold off on rioting until Tuesday.

That’s it for thief?
Come on..

This kills the thief

those thief changes….like seriously?

AYYYY LMAO.

no srsly, rip thief.

Zero Day.2594:

Kocoff.7582:

…
Thief

-pistol damage buff 20%
- Potent poison 10 -> 33%
- Vigorous recovery 5 to 7
- epeditious dodger +

There wasn’t enough to cover everything.

Well… If that was their main thing….

Yeah the guy was rushed, when he started skipping things at the rangers and just mentioned a few things for us.

man I am scared… this can’t be all. I know it’s a buff, but those are minor MINOR improvement.

I can’t wait till Tuesday I might bring doom now nothing was said about CiS going back to master. Don’t mess this up “he who knows his name”.

I sense that on Tuesday there will be

Sagat.3285:

I can’t wait till Tuesday I might bring doom now nothing was said about CiS going back to master. Don’t mess this up “he who knows his name”.

I know I was waiting for this too I can tell that even though he was rushed, he purposefully skipped a few.. For instance, Ele was first, but the left the huge ele ice bow nerf last for effects.

-50% and can only hit 3 targets.

Please Karl don’t let all that Irenio said be it for thief. This class is dying Q.Q

Potent Poison buff. My brain broke when they nerfed it in first place by such a large amount. ;o Strange that they were rushed on time.. wasn’t that the point of the stream? What else was talked about that I must of missed?

Lyger.5429:

Please Karl don’t let all that Irenio said be it for thief. This class is dying Q.Q

Lol, like seriously, there’s already a memorial post being made.

And I was thinking of throwing up a PSA on reddit to warn new players not to play the thief.

:/ I’m just not good at writing lengthy posts…. or anything for that matter.

Better hope there are a lot more buffs, especially to the weapon sets outside d/p.

p/p 20% damage buff? – Damage was never the issue. The issue is that #3 is the only skill this weapon set uses.

Vigorous recovery 5 to 7 – Will die just as quickly as before, you still cannot chain dodges.

expeditious dodger – still pretty laughable since swiftness no longer affects leaps. The extra range swiftness gave to s/d #3 was very important to the playstyle – it meant you could land #3 from just outside melee range.

Potent poison 10 -> 33% – condi trapper thief and condi daredevil thief in WvW will be even nastier. Won’t affect PvP at all.

Doggie.3184:

Potent Poison buff. My brain broke when they nerfed it in first place by such a large amount. ;o Strange that they were rushed on time.. wasn’t that the point of the stream? What else was talked about that I must of missed?

They were screwing around and bantering a lot in the early part of the stream, which ate into their time.

Reading these notes + HoT other spec I’m honestly depressed.

Rip thief, really.

MarkPhilips.5169:

Reading these notes + HoT other spec I’m honestly depressed.

Rip thief, really.

Should we have a large party in white robes and pass the special koolaid to everyone?

Doggie.3184:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Reading these notes + HoT other spec I’m honestly depressed.

Rip thief, really.

Should we have a large party in white robes and pass the special koolaid to everyone?

Only if Karl drinks it first….

Driften.8716:

Doggie.3184:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Reading these notes + HoT other spec I’m honestly depressed.

Rip thief, really.

Should we have a large party in white robes and pass the special koolaid to everyone?

Only if Karl drinks it first….

That’s not appropriate.

Also, surprised at the lack of explosion over “reveal now removed all stealth” fix.

Driften.8716:

Doggie.3184:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Reading these notes + HoT other spec I’m honestly depressed.

Rip thief, really.

Should we have a large party in white robes and pass the special koolaid to everyone?

Only if Karl drinks it first….

ronpierce.2760:

…

Also, surprised at the lack of explosion over “reveal now removed all stealth” fix.

That’s cute…

Please hit us harder….

ronpierce.2760:

Driften.8716:

Doggie.3184:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Reading these notes + HoT other spec I’m honestly depressed.

Rip thief, really.

Should we have a large party in white robes and pass the special koolaid to everyone?

Only if Karl drinks it first….

That’s not appropriate.

Also, surprised at the lack of explosion over “reveal now removed all stealth” fix.

Whats not appropriate is the level of neglect that the Thief gets. You can only kick a dead horse for so long…

Any bets on the majority of the unmentioned buffs being to traps and / or venoms? I will start the bet at 250 thick leather sections…..

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Will also be annoyed if scoprion wire goes unfixed. Engineer’s magnetic pull is getting one.

Gallant Pigeon.5807:

Any bets on the majority of the unmentioned buffs being to traps and / or venoms? I will start the bet at 250 thick leather sections…..

More than likely.
Plus there will probably be nerfs.

After what they did to Thief in the specialization update, it’s become really unfun with the traits they took away. If I see nerfs or nothing remedying this, I’m dropping a ticket for a Heart of Thorns refund. Thief is my main and it’s what I play for most of the content and I don’t think I should pay for my own demise.

hino.3157:

After what they did to Thief in the specialization update, it’s become really unfun with the traits they took away. If I see nerfs or nothing remedying this, I’m dropping a ticket for a Heart of Thorns refund. Thief is my main and it’s what I play for most of the content and I don’t think I should pay for my own demise.

I will 2nd this. I dropped a good $100 on mine and my wife’s account for HoT. I could care less about the Revvy and I main a thief. I was planning on playing the game for a while but I can’t play something I will just suffer through because the Devs cannot balance or be bothered to care about it.

Can understand why people are annoyed and want a refund. Daredevil might make evasion specs semi viable again, but much of it simply adding back what was stripped from the old acro trait line.

The core thief spec is a gutted mess. I feel sorry for people who haven’t bought HoT and are stuck on vanilla thief. As it stands there is no way a vanilla thief will be competitive come HoT.

ronpierce.2760:

Driften.8716:

Doggie.3184:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Reading these notes + HoT other spec I’m honestly depressed.

Rip thief, really.

Should we have a large party in white robes and pass the special koolaid to everyone?

Only if Karl drinks it first….

That’s not appropriate.

Also, surprised at the lack of explosion over “reveal now removed all stealth” fix.

Idk what that means.. I’m justa doge.

Well then. Guess the answer to those questions were a resounding NO.