Guild Wars 2

Thought you guys might want to know. I reported it in the bugs section already, but since they possibly (probably) won’t fix it for quite a while, I figure we’d roll with it.

Uninstall the game and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

thanks for letting us know, didn’t even realize!

love your vids btw, really good elementalist right there!

Yeah that’s rich, an ele calling for an already underpowered class to be nerfed. Mind doing a thief roaming and video and get back to us and see how well you did? Or hell, even a mid-tier class. I took out thieves and hunters on my ele roaming too.

Tarkan.5609:

thanks for letting us know, didn’t even realize!

love your vids btw, really good elementalist right there!

I could beat the world champion in chess if he started without a queen, wouldn’t make me “good” just for having unfair advantages.

Add proper class balance and see if he can still pull all that off.

oh no how dare elite to daze for 1.5 sec zzzz

Tarkan.5609:

thanks for letting us know, didn’t even realize!

love your vids btw, really good elementalist right there!

Thanks man! I feel famous now..

I actually don’t know what all of you guys have. He pointed out a bug, didn’t request a nerf, is that so bad?
If he pointed out withdraw still lacking the 10% healing buff, would you act that offended then?

And what does class balance have to do with bug reports, I begin to see why devs tend to avoid the thief forum

Even with the “bug” doing half a second more than it “should” thief is still way too underpowered.

“If he pointed out withdraw still lacking the 10% healing buff, would you act that offended then?”

Funny how he only pointed out one thing that only very marginally benefits thieves instead of a detrimental bug.

If a class is very underpowered despite beneficial “bugs” then that’s an issue of class balance. If that extra half a second mattered I’d actually have the elite slotted instead of avatar of Melandru, which has great CC and condition removal. Worth the three minute cooldown vs. the entire minute for the overly long charge time and obnoxious noise and animation of BV (the noise on application needs to be deleted, charge time reduced, and ending animation eliminated problem with all of that is it communicates that you’ve applied it, giving other players information and could prepare a counter to it) just for a 1.5 second stun that might not even stun if someone has the sense to dodge the venom.

Agemnon.4608:

blibbity blabbity

So it IS a bug.

Save your speech, I’ve been on the buff thief train for a long time. You’re just being difficult. Rant elsewhere. Like maybe one of the 100 other threads about how to improve thief.

Black Frog.9274:

Agemnon.4608:

blibbity blabbity

So it IS a bug.

The “fixing” of which would result in nerfing the class. Why do they seem to care about this one particular “bug” when there are countless others for other classes or even bad bugs within thief itself like mentioned earlier?

Sadly, I don’t blame anyone for reacting negatively to someone drawing attention to this bug. From a development standpoint, it’s way easier to fix bugs like this than it is to develop the meaningful improvements a class like Thief needs.

Ideally, a developer would be responsible and take the current state of a class with a bug like this into account before deciding on how/when to fix it. In the real world, classes that are already on the ropes often get bugs like this fixed when discovered, which just exacerbates an already awful situation—and yes, having the only viable Thief elite lose 33% effectiveness would be awful right now. Here’s to hoping THAT doesn’t happen

Agemnon.4608:

Black Frog.9274:

Agemnon.4608:

blibbity blabbity

So it IS a bug.

The “fixing” of which would result in nerfing the class. Why do they seem to care about this one particular “bug” when there are countless others for other classes or even bad bugs within thief itself like mentioned earlier?

Bugs are there to be fixed.
Imbalances are there to be worked on.

These two things have nothing to do with each other, that’s why I added the Basilisk Venom bug to the Thief Bugs…

A player shouldn’t want bugs to persist, because they are unwanted in a game. While I agree on Thief needing a nerf, I also want ALL of it’s bugs fixed (positive and negative ones).

Tarkan.5609:

Bugs are there to be fixed.
Imbalances are there to be worked on.

These two things have nothing to do with each other, that’s why I added the Basilisk Venom bug to the Thief Bugs…

A player shouldn’t want bugs to persist, because they are unwanted in a game. While I agree on Thief needing a nerf, I also want ALL of it’s bugs fixed (positive and negative ones).

It’s easy to say things like that in the realm of abstract rhetoric, but that’s not how things work in the real world. Read the post right above yours if you wish to know why

I requested a Moderator to change the title of this thread to:
“Celes Elems are still OP.”

Agemnon.4608:

Black Frog.9274:

Agemnon.4608:

blibbity blabbity

So it IS a bug.

The “fixing” of which would result in nerfing the class. Why do they seem to care about this one particular “bug” when there are countless others for other classes or even bad bugs within thief itself like mentioned earlier?

Why not fix all bugs and balance everything properly? You’re trying to make the case that a bug that is beneficial to you not be removed. I suspect if the bug were NOT beneficial to you, you’d want it fixed. That’s the definition of hypocrisy.

I get your frustration, but that is warped logic.