Guild Wars 2

Hi all,

I want to give P/P another go, since they slightly improved Body Shot… and well, I do just want to blast away with guns. My spec is 0/25/10/20/15, I do mostly PvE and WvW. I like using Stealth as much as I can with Blinding Powder and Shadow Refuge.

So, given that Vital Shot and Sneak Attack add bleeds, I was thinking that Rampager’s Armor would make more since over Berkserker’s. Also might be better for SB.

Anybody got advice about it? Many Thanks!

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If you’re going to be mostly in PvE and WvW then I’d say that Carrion would be the best for you, actually. Power for the Unload, Condition Damage for the Vital Shot + Sneak Attack bleeds and Vitality for survivability.

As for traits, you could go something like 0/30/20/0/15 for the extra toughness while giving yourself more vitality via jewellery.

Thanks for the advice!

I wouldn’t suspect Carrion gear to be very good for P/P, as Unload would be the primary damage skill. Especially given P/P doesn’t have a way to enter stealth for a reliable stacking of bleeds with Sneak Attack.

I don’t know, maybe I’m underestimating how much bleeds would stack up?

I will have to look into my build too… can I deal with nothing in Acrobatics? I don’t know!

to me it sounds like you should be running P/D, if you want the pewpew stealth pistol

P/P is more of a berserkers set where your 3 is your main damage ability

Also, PvE and WvW require vastly different stats, thieves can easily go full zerkers with a slight learning curve for learning how to dodge and blind NPCs

I recommend Berserker personally for P/P. Unload will be most of your damage and that benefits more from Berserker more than Rampager.

If you go Rampager you might as well just go P/D, which will perform better than P/P in most situations anyway.

SpaceCowboy.1398:

Thanks for the advice!

I wouldn’t suspect Carrion gear to be very good for P/P, as Unload would be the primary damage skill. Especially given P/P doesn’t have a way to enter stealth for a reliable stacking of bleeds with Sneak Attack.

I don’t know, maybe I’m underestimating how much bleeds would stack up?

I will have to look into my build too… can I deal with nothing in Acrobatics? I don’t know!

You’re not, at most you’ll stack 10 bleeds (more likely 5) using vital shot bar stealth for sneak attack.

Berserker gear would be better bar dungeons where your berserker gear makes you a total liability.

You should check out P/D. The number 5 “CnD” skill allows for constant stealth and bleed unloads from stealth. It’s what I’m using now, and it’s much much better than P/P. If it were the case that you should choose this, go for carrion gear(however, with that said, carrion gear is expensive at 3G per even shoulder pieces, instead look for “shiro gear” at TP, they cost a mere 1G and have the exact same stats)

Here is a youtube video of a thief demonstrating this build

Link in description is a link to a very helpful site detailing almost everything about it.

Thanks for all the responses! I’ve been P/D for a while, but I want a change… and honestly P/P is what I want to play, even though admittedly it is kittened. So, don’t expect me to claim P/P is better than P/D at all!

I don’t know why I’m so stubborn, I was convinced Rampager’s would be better than Berserker’s for P/P, but I am so wrong. I just did a test in the Mists, just spamming auto-attack alone against a heavy golem. With the Berserker’s Amulet it took ~16s to kill, with Rampager’s ~18s. So, even with bleeds vs the heavy armor, Berserker’s still won out!

I was spec’d 0/30/0/20/20, Sigil of Accuracy x2, Runes of the Eagle.
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-cRRV;1RwkZ0J5ROVd0;9;5T-JJ;146A;118-26-4J;4JF04JF045Bf

Well, that finishes that argument! Again, thanks for all your input!