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s/d has no chance srry yamak. d/p …well i guess it dpeends on both players. if d/p is overly agressive itl oses…. same with p/d.

ok below you will see a link. your camp attack starts at 5 secs and ends at 1 min 5 secs for a total kill time of 60 seconds. mine is edited so you see only the first attack and last attack tomake it simple. mine is 53 seconds. 7 seconds faster

there are a few fundamental differences in both videos i would liketo point out. we both lag…bad…although it hink urs was just the video but id have to ask you to make sure before i claim anything. mine was lagging in game. revealed/stealth wasnt showing up hence CND thru stealth all f-ed up.

things thats could have made your video faster : sword? aoe dmg swingin it infront of u would prolly be faster than dagger i assume but idk. you could aslo have dropped black powder shot first then daggerstormed to avoid that stun but debateable… ill adress the most important fact later.

things that could have made my video faster: not CnDing in stealth…not lagging on caltrops which was placed too early….not targeting the vet first……. few other things but not enough to mention here.

Question: why didnt you bring the vet forward too? oh you couldnt? whys that? ahh thats right u needed a cheap trick to funnel them in on the corner of the rock to have a chance at doing it. i actually forgot this trick but i willt ell u there is another spot over by the saw you can do it thru the wall. but again cheap trick :P

mine can do this with 1-2 people in camp….once the camp is dead then i kill the 2 . d/p just cant do that. if it can thats cool but id like to see it on video first?

my video: plz excuse the clumsy mistakes in lag.

http://youtu.be/J88o9Gp35rs

I play D/D + S/D and I flip camps in under a minute too =/
Whats the big deal?

not without funneling that cheap trick :P just unrealistic unless ur at the perfect camp and there has to be no other enemies and there cant be RI up. thats 3 “musts”

very clearly at the 5.25 mark of your video or 5.5 latest you hti with your trick shot. same at 1:05:25 mark the last hit and exp came up. i stopped i there.

the first hit in my video was 1 second in…but i started at 0 bc i activated daggerstorm so there wouldnt be any disagreement. i really try to be unbiased. but if i count when urs started i could say 4 secs bc u activated trick shot then. so i guess we shoudl faily add 1 sec extra to my video win time? mm? aslo he literally dies at 53.25 on my vid so the total time would be 51.75 to your 61 seconds. but not gonna nickle dime it. won fair and square. anyway shall we move on and disprove another one of yoru comments?

BTW mine was 1 try. i could get around 40 secs if u really want. no mistakes and all.

So in short:
- I start at 00:12. At 00:40 the dolly dies and I lose like 6 seconds getting to the claimer, which dies at 01:05.

By my math I took 18 seconds to kill the claimer plus 28 to kill the rest, not to mention never being below 90% hp

Thats a total of 46 seconds to kill MORE TARGETS than you and without having the claimer there to take the aoe damage from sigil of fire, daggerstorm+bleeddmg and throw gunk.

I’d say it would probably cut more than 6 seconds from the total. So yeah, how exactly is your “best overall wvw build” the quote “hands down best camp flipper” again?

You reply without a single mention of killing 5 targets instead of 8, cute.

And you started the camp with already throw gunk in your steal, cute.

Mine was 1 try too, sup with that.

Tonikor.5637:

So in short:
- I start at 00:12. At 00:40 the dolly dies and I lose like 6 seconds getting to the claimer, which dies at 01:05.

By my math I took 18 seconds to kill the claimer plus 28 to kill the rest, not to mention never being below 90% hp

Thats a total of 46 seconds to kill MORE TARGETS than you and without having the claimer there to take the aoe damage from sigil of fire, daggerstorm+bleeddmg and throw gunk.

I’d say it would probably cut more than 6 seconds from the total. So yeah, how exactly is your “best overall wvw build” the quote “hands down best camp flipper” again?

the dollys i dont have to hit. 1 caltrops = more than enough dmg to kill dollys but i do hear what urs ayign there. but u activate trick shot at 4 and hit it at 5. why dont u go find another camp? or is it only that one u can do? i can do it to any

fact 1 : u still cant make or show me a video of d/p or s/d getting into a zerg fight and actually fighting….other than on an edge picking on a solo lamby

fact 2: u cant flip a camp without a cheap trick and choosing camp where u can trick the games AI into a poor pathing and to kill them that way. i can run into a camp whenever where ever and however i want and still get teh same result.

so next time u say “d/p is better or as good as p/d flipping a camp” make sure you put the qualifying asterisk below it * only if i funnel them into a pathing trick/cheat otherwise not going to happen*

again check mate bwahah

Tonikor.5637:

You reply without a single mention of killing 5 targets instead of 8, cute.

And you started the camp with already throw gunk in your steal, cute.

Mine was 1 try too, sup with that.

u had 3 yaks? wierd. thought there wer 2 per camp?

just realized i also have 25 stacks of blood not corruption. oops.

Oh my GOD! Are you SERIOUS?
Lets try again (for the 3rd time):

- My video has: TWO melee guards, TWO ranged guards, TWO dolyaks, ONE claimer, ONE quartermaster, that adds up to EIGHT total npcs.

- Your video has: ONE melee guard, TWO ranged guards, ZERO dolyaks, ONE claimer, ONE quartermaster, that adds up to FIVE total npcs.

On top of all that, you started with a stolen ability got from somewhere else AND you failed to show your stats/inventory/traits as requested.

Why are you ignoring my edit? Show us all one caltrops killing a dolyak.

oh mine had one? ok ill go to the same camp as urs.

saving a video now. sryr its hard to find a camp with 2 dolyaks. but i fought a warrior and camp instead. 1 min 2 seconds of fighting. id personally rather have 2 dolyaks but w.e. without the warrior id prolly have been around 42 seconds or so 43 maybe.

yoru camp wasnt upgraded…… idk how theres 2 guards…im standing at the same one now. only 1 guard.

either way its one of like what 8 camps u can do that to? :P still a fail even if u could beat me which u didnt :P but ill get another video with yaks so u feel better. why dont u get another video without using a cheap trick to camp. bc technically and class can do that. ive seen ranger and guardian use that trick before.

http://youtu.be/mOmkX5WpROo see ….same as yorus but 1 live player for the missing yaks etc. im still trying to find a camp with yaks as im typing this message. are you searchign for a camp too? id like to see it without tricks. just bc u can use a trick within the game doesnt mean its a part of your build. the trick is a flaw int he game….not a pro to your build. therefore you are exploiting a fault in pathing….not capitalizing on your buidls prowess. hence i cant accept it even if u did win.

i understand you had a few more. i also didnt funnly mine in. what can be done? cheap tricks? ok u need qualifiers for your build to work. mine just works. i dont need to “enter at the right angle” i dont need to"funnel pathing" i dont need to “pull half the camp at a time” i rock it out like a boss. u get it done cheap. period. its inferior. period. show me you can do it without tricks. i did my camp without any_

To be fair, he did face tank the supervisor with a pistol.

Viking Jorun.5413:

To be fair, he did face tank the supervisor with a pistol.

I don’t get it. The supervisor took two swings at his 19k hp. So uhm… what?

making a new vid now. up in 5 mins tops.

so IF and ONLY IF you use that trick will you ever be as close.

:) if you need an IF then its an inferior build :P

PS still waiting on the zergy vids of anyobne with d/p or s/d

not evven gonna mention the fact urs is 10% or so sped up too. maybe 15. def something fishy about urs.

if you look at the moment you kill the last yak….. right? you jet forward at like +50% speed then slow down and run the rest at normal speed … right at 40 secs. really go look

also the first lag looks more like a vid freeze and cut some footage as you did quite alot of dmg in those 2.5 seconds and also went back up to full health. videos dont freeze. when u lag the camera catches it all. never happens like that. i think u cut footage out. hence why A ) you wont do the camp without a cornball trick and you wont even make another video with a timer you are a fake…a cheat…a trickster….and you got beat

http://youtu.be/JiLEbRjxq1Q

-1 yak but it dont matter. i dont target yaks at all bc 1 caltrops kills any number of them while im invis. not to mention daggerstorm dmg

PS its not to impress you its to show the forum n ow what trolls really do. nothing but troll with 0 backup. everything u say has been proved wrong…with video(camp capping) with lack of video (zerging with d/p) ….with math (gap closers) and id say pros/cons list but thats more arguable so i wont include that.

You still fail to explain why you don’t show the traits and why you have:

- DIFFERENT SIGILS; (just for the occasion)
- 5% DAMAGE BOOSTER (just for the occasion)
- DIFFERENT UTILS (just for the occasion)
- CORRUPTION OR BLOODLUST STACKS (just for the occasion)
- HAVING STEAL -THROW GUNK- (just for the occasion)
And since maybe you don’t notice, you have ambush thief + ricochet + dagger storm + throw gunk ON TOP of the caltrops hitting the dolyak.

So uhm, show me 1 caltrops vs 1 dolyak. Until the I’m out of here, bye.

Travlane.5948:

@dr yamak….when i was downed at that camp…. RI…..didnt notice he had that up. rewatch it. not even gonan respond to the rest or read it since u dont know simple stuff like that?

What about you talking? I don’t say anything about camp. What stuff? Are you adequate or not?

@DRyamak

“No, I cant flip a camp half as fast, I can flip it TWICE as fast if not more. Yes it can be proven in video, we all saw the one you posted I can guarantee you I don’t even get downed unlike you.”

this was said in your post….maybe it was quoted or edited incorrectly idk. but it seems like a response…i didnt see anyoen elses name near it.

Travlane.5948:

s/d has no chance srry yamak. d/p …well i guess it dpeends on both players. if d/p is overly agressive itl oses…. same with p/d.

Prove it. Just one duel. As for d/p you need to c&d off something to do your pew pew, but sometimes. you know you just cant do this. In wvw all p/d thiefs start to run to nearest pack of mobs cause – c&d miss, c&d miss, what a crap-need to find rabbit or rat to c&d off. But in custom arena no rats and your lovely rabbits, and you know this . You say that d/p inferior to p/d so why you cant kill it? Of course you can, but why you afraid to prove it? Cause you just little pug with some huge pretends, sorry to disappoint you all of your pretends silly.

Travlane.5948:

@DRyamak

“No, I cant flip a camp half as fast, I can flip it TWICE as fast if not more. Yes it can be proven in video, we all saw the one you posted I can guarantee you I don’t even get downed unlike you.”

this was said in your post….maybe it was quoted or edited incorrectly idk. but it seems like a response…i didnt see anyoen elses name near it.

Now i understand all about you, you inadequate, completely . That was reply of Tonikor to you.

DrYamak.9364:

Travlane.5948:

s/d has no chance srry yamak. d/p …well i guess it dpeends on both players. if d/p is overly agressive itl oses…. same with p/d.

Prove it. Just one duel. As for d/p you need to c&d off something to do your pew pew, but sometimes. you know you just cant do this. In wvw all p/d thiefs start to run to nearest pack of mobs cause – c&d miss, c&d miss, what a crap-need to find rabbit or rat to c&d off. But in custom arena no rats and your lovely rabbits, and you know this . You say that d/p inferior to p/d so why you cant kill it? Of course you can, but why you afraid to prove it? Cause you just little pug with some huge pretends, sorry to disappoint you all of your pretends silly.

wow…ok lol..where do i start on this mess of ideas.

1) re-read the title….
2) read it again lol….
3) yes this build works in wvw with a slight change of 2 traits and 2 utils
4)i would be more than happy for a duel. actually i prolly have some footage of a s/d and me fighting somewhere….althought not alot bc its rare to see s/d in wvw.
5)not sure how to respond to the rest as it doesnt make sense? i have huge pretends? your are sorry about my pretends? wtf does that mean?
6) yes s/d is quite inferior in the the context of what i was discussing. s/p too. d/p is close but cant really zerg it up so it comes up short in that department.
7) “as for d/p you need CnD” <——- you said this…… d/p doesnt use CND

anytime u want a duel ill put you on video. let me know not one troll / hater has accepted the challenge yet.

DrYamak.9364:

Travlane.5948:

@DRyamak

“No, I cant flip a camp half as fast, I can flip it TWICE as fast if not more. Yes it can be proven in video, we all saw the one you posted I can guarantee you I don’t even get downed unlike you.”

this was said in your post….maybe it was quoted or edited incorrectly idk. but it seems like a response…i didnt see anyoen elses name near it.

Now i understand all about you, you inadequate, completely . That was reply of Tonikor to you.

“you inadequate” i think you mean i am inadequate….and also need to qualify that…. in what sense?

ok then it was from tonikor. i thought it was you who said it. no big deal…either way you are correct it is clinical. all the facts and evidence says i was right. not one piece of evidence says other wise. opinions are irrelevant in clinical matters.

Travlane.5948:

DrYamak.9364:

Travlane.5948:

s/d has no chance srry yamak. d/p …well i guess it dpeends on both players. if d/p is overly agressive itl oses…. same with p/d.

Prove it. Just one duel. As for d/p you (YOU-Travlane not d/p thief) need to c&d off something to do your pew pew, but sometimes. you know you just cant do this. In wvw all p/d thiefs start to run to nearest pack of mobs cause – c&d miss, c&d miss, what a crap-need to find rabbit or rat to c&d off. But in custom arena no rats and your lovely rabbits, and you know this . You say that d/p inferior to p/d so why you cant kill it? Of course you can, but why you afraid to prove it? Cause you just little pug with some huge pretends, sorry to disappoint you all of your pretends silly.

wow…ok lol..where do i start on this mess of ideas.

1) re-read the title….
2) read it again lol….
3) yes this build works in wvw with a slight change of 2 traits and 2 utils
4)i would be more than happy for a duel. actually i prolly have some footage of a s/d and me fighting somewhere….althought not alot bc its rare to see s/d in wvw.
5)not sure how to respond to the rest as it doesnt make sense? i have huge pretends? your are sorry about my pretends? wtf does that mean?
6) yes s/d is quite inferior in the the context of what i was discussing. s/p too. d/p is close but cant really zerg it up so it comes up short in that department.
7) “as for d/p you need CnD” <——- you said this…… d/p doesnt use CND

anytime u want a duel ill put you on video. let me know not one troll / hater has accepted the challenge yet.

I mean that in duel with d/p you need to c&d off something, and it is not so hard to stop you from doing this. I am await you for funny duel the whole day. Just reply on this post enter the game and we go to the mists. Only one troll here that doesn’t accept duel – it is you.

DrYamak.9364:

Travlane.5948:

DrYamak.9364:

Travlane.5948:

s/d has no chance srry yamak. d/p …well i guess it dpeends on both players. if d/p is overly agressive itl oses…. same with p/d.

Prove it. Just one duel. As for d/p you (YOU -Travlane not d/p thief) need to c&d off something to do your pew pew, but sometimes. you know you just cant do this. In wvw all p/d thiefs start to run to nearest pack of mobs cause – c&d miss, c&d miss, what a crap-need to find rabbit or rat to c&d off. But in custom arena no rats and your lovely rabbits, and you know this . You say that d/p inferior to p/d so why you cant kill it? Of course you can, but why you afraid to prove it? Cause you just little pug with some huge pretends, sorry to disappoint you all of your pretends silly.

wow…ok lol..where do i start on this mess of ideas.

1) re-read the title….
2) read it again lol….
3) yes this build works in wvw with a slight change of 2 traits and 2 utils
4)i would be more than happy for a duel. actually i prolly have some footage of a s/d and me fighting somewhere….althought not alot bc its rare to see s/d in wvw.
5)not sure how to respond to the rest as it doesnt make sense? i have huge pretends? your are sorry about my pretends? wtf does that mean?
6) yes s/d is quite inferior in the the context of what i was discussing. s/p too. d/p is close but cant really zerg it up so it comes up short in that department.
7) “as for d/p you need CnD” <——- you said this…… d/p doesnt use CND

anytime u want a duel ill put you on video. let me know not one troll / hater has accepted the challenge yet.

I mean that in duel with d/p you need to c&d off something, and it is not so hard to stop you from doing this. I am await you for funny duel the whole day. Just reply on this post enter the game and we go to the mists. Only one troll here that doesn’t accept duel – it is you.

im going to msg you in game now. loggin in hope ur up for that duel. and i believe you are the troll bc i challenged you to a game. its your job to reply and accept/decline in game. you cant have 2 challenges that makes no sense.

PS: D/P cant CND ever. its impossible :P

and when i do CND with my build it will work enough to get the job done. and if u hide…..i hide too.

http://youtu.be/qCRUEs1v7-4

see….u keep saying ur in there. i was in there…ur still not in there. bs

turns out dr yamak claims he is from Russia. obv EU and NA cant duel. so either he is lying and hiding…or just hasnt played GW2 very long bc that is kinda common knowledge.

That dude refuse to duel. And hide. Hi waste 20 mins of my life wrighting bullkitten to me. And try to frighten me with video.

And one more. Travln just find me and continue to avoid dueling, making video and try to troll but failed. How sad, you cant even troll good. Terrible player, bad troll. You must to think about suicide)

no i was in the room. i asked you 3x where you lived …what country.. took you 20 mins to tell me russia. i told you it was a relevant question. so either you lied and avoided my duel OOOOOOOOOR your just inexperienced/ignorant either way YOU WUSSED OUT on a duel. lol pansy

see? read the chat and the video. nobody was in the room. wuss

My question is I thought you were bringing that kittenty P/D build to duel so you can prove it r0xx0rz……so why are you D/P???

im not. i have the weapons setup from old spvp. i dont spvp much. i usually just wvw. i run guardian on spvp. but cmon if ur gonan come at me be realistic. why would i record a d/p d/p fight? what would that prove.

even look at the skills. those are not D/p utilities. they are p/d duh :P

Travlane.5948:

even look at the skills. those are not D/p utilities. they are p/d duh :P

One more lie, he say to me that hi will use d/p in duel cause it is unfair that i have so much stealth. And he realize that he cant win with p/d. Also Traqvln that kitten eater refuse from dueling. Just give the name of custom arena i enter that arena but he didn’t came. After that i ask him to give me the name of a room where he are but he didn’t. Then he says that he record all and post on forum, but video only 8 sec, it is strange). So this is just a kitten sucker that want to prove something but always fails. So sad. He even cant duel, cause he just clicker pug) Travln says that he mastered d/d and d/p, one question – you mastered that builds by clicking on skills by mouse as you do on p/d? rofl.

I predict that it should be some kind of provocation from travln, thats why i make screen shots.

i said if u hide i will hide. under 10 secs is fine. but dont expect me not to hide if u do.

i would never once hit u with anything other than p/d . as i said iw ould beat you with p/d but you didnt fight me. i was in the room and u didnt come. so u either wussed out or you are on EU server. im from USA. you russia. do the math.

Travlane.5948:

i said if u hide i will hide. under 10 secs is fine. but dont expect me not to hide if u do.

i would never once hit u with anything other than p/d . as i said iw ould beat you with p/d but you didnt fight me. i was in the room and u didnt come. so u either wussed out or you are on EU server. im from USA. you russia. do the math.

One more lie from little clicker) Continue to entertain me and fellow thieves. It is very funny to have personal clown.

sure yamak …all i know is u havent proved anything

Did one of you hook up with the other’s girl or something or are you all just fighting to see who can be the most immature.

As to the original post. I tried the spec in WvW, but still think that a 5/0/30/15/20 set up works better FOR ME. Even though the spec isn’t ideal for me, I respect that you posted it here.

style.6173:

As to the original post. I tried the spec in WvW, but still think that a 5/0/30/15/20 set up works better FOR ME. Even though the spec isn’t ideal for me, I respect that you posted it here.

I changed to that spec recently too and it’s currently my favourite P/D build. My old build only had 5 points in a different spot though.