Bleed thief vs Guardian [short pvp movie]

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Posted by: Nande.6810

Nande.6810

Hello!

I ran across this guardian when I was recording the other day and we had two IMO pretty sweet duels and just wanted to show it of and get some feedback on the editing mainly.
Was trying to show what was going on for anyone that maybe doesn’t know what to look for or what’s happening in general.

Hope you enjoy! Leave some feedback =) ty!

The Bleed thief (d/d & p/p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHdpbyNpVU
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Posted by: Emerge.9640

Emerge.9640

Our builds look like they’re very similar.
What’s your build? Assassins reward w/ Signet of Malice and Runes of Vampirisim returns tons of health.

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Posted by: Eliteseraph.4970

Eliteseraph.4970

The editing seems good. You avoided using too many crazy special effects or covering the screen with useless info. I liked seeing when the guardian removed conditions. I didn’t like seeing DB spammed so much. I know it’s how dagger thieves apply bleeds, but there were a couple times there where you drained your init and didn’t have many options. I’m not an expert on D/D, but it seems like leaving yourself with such low init is a bad idea.

Other than that it was a nice short and clean vid.

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Posted by: Ghonta.3958

Ghonta.3958

I also play condition thief, and yeah, it really sucks that db take so much init, but with caltrops and stealth you can pretty much run away and kite if you are in danger, like Nande was doing. Pretty nice video!

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

Cool stuff, PvP is actually a lot more fun if it takes a little effort to overcome your enemies.

But then again, most maps wouldn’t work if killing someone would take 30 seconds every time.

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Posted by: Nande.6810

Nande.6810

Our builds look like they’re very similar.
What’s your build? Assassins reward w/ Signet of Malice and Runes of Vampirisim returns tons of health.

It’s a good build for sure! True that, although personally I prefer the utility that Hide in shadows brings, but yes your right. It heals for a tone!
Any feedback on the video in general?

The editing seems good. You avoided using too many crazy special effects or covering the screen with useless info. I liked seeing when the guardian removed conditions. I didn’t like seeing DB spammed so much. I know it’s how dagger thieves apply bleeds, but there were a couple times there where you drained your init and didn’t have many options. I’m not an expert on D/D, but it seems like leaving yourself with such low init is a bad idea.

Other than that it was a nice short and clean vid.

Thanks for the feedback! I will make another lengthy with these sort of effects and maybe some commentary so i’m glad you liked it =)

You’re right, on occasions I shouldn’t have used all initiative on DB due to bad timing or dodges on his part, I do it to force condition removers and I can still apply bleeds without initiative and gain 3 initiative from weapon swapping and 4 on heal which is 9/10 times used after swapping to P/P and another 2 from gaining stealth so I can get it back on demand.

I also play condition thief, and yeah, it really sucks that db take so much init, but with caltrops and stealth you can pretty much run away and kite if you are in danger, like Nande was doing. Pretty nice video!

Thanks! =)
Yea, you can usually get away with your utility and wait for your heal, if you cant stealth you could spend initiative on headshot til you can find cover, or black powder for that matter.
And yes, the caltraps cripple is pretty strong!

Cool stuff, PvP is actually a lot more fun if it takes a little effort to overcome your enemies.

But then again, most maps wouldn’t work if killing someone would take 30 seconds every time.

Glad you enjoyed it, yeah defo. That’s why I prefer this build and have played it since beta.

You’re right, although if you’re playing as a team you can force conditions removers more rapidly and then go all out and bleed them down quickly.
But yes I know what you mean!

The Bleed thief (d/d & p/p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHdpbyNpVU
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Posted by: Nande.6810

Nande.6810

@Emerge.9640 Wont let me edit, but i’m running

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The Bleed thief (d/d & p/p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHdpbyNpVU
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Posted by: TheGuy.3568

TheGuy.3568

Good duels. I play P/D myself and it plays kind of like that (except I sit on near full initiative half the time lol) But I have to ask shadow refuge in PvP? Usually most players aoe the area or I will dagger storm or pull out my bow and poison the area. wouldn’t blinding power or the initiative signet (which shadow steps you toward him and breaks stun but probably only work with P/D to set up C& D to sneak attack.) Work a little more fluid?

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Posted by: ens.9854

ens.9854

Shadow refuge is one of thief’s key utilities in pvp. It has let me cloak and revive teammates countless times (and is responsible for much of my rage when a spamming noob breaks the stealth i give him and gets stomped). There have also been several occasions that it has allowed me to self-rally by popping it before I go down due to the healing and extreme stealth duration (bug?) it gives if you do not move out of it. Many players give up and leave, or you can try to get yourself to an awkward corner where they wont aoe you.

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Posted by: Nande.6810

Nande.6810

Good duels. I play P/D myself and it plays kind of like that (except I sit on near full initiative half the time lol) But I have to ask shadow refuge in PvP? Usually most players aoe the area or I will dagger storm or pull out my bow and poison the area. wouldn’t blinding power or the initiative signet (which shadow steps you toward him and breaks stun but probably only work with P/D to set up C& D to sneak attack.) Work a little more fluid?

Thanks. What did you think of the modest editing?
Yes, shadow refuge, as Ens pointed out,

Shadow refuge is one of thief’s key utilities in pvp. It has let me cloak and revive teammates countless times (and is responsible for much of my rage when a spamming noob breaks the stealth i give him and gets stomped).

,it has great utility and the combo with projectiles that has a life steal which is neat and frequently used on my part and has a small heal, but with the spec i’m currently running 0, 0, 10, 30, 30 so the heal is pretty nice.

Yes people will AoE the refuge, more then often you can still stay in it and out of the AoE. I rarely use shadow refuge as a pure defensive cool down to hide in. About the initiative signet, i don’t like the randomness in it, aka every 10 sec. I prefer a reliable on demand initiative when stealthing.
I’m trying to stay out of melee range for as much as possible while I don’t have any initiative so that I don’t take unnecessary damage, unless it’s a ranger :P
And when I’m in melee BD can be used as a evade as well which works with that concept.
Hope I answered everything.

The Bleed thief (d/d & p/p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHdpbyNpVU
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