Buff thief.
Heck yeah! Though… we would be legitimately OP without a counter then.
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No, no, no… sadness is a weak and pathetic emotion, and not worthy as a source of our power. In stead, our initiative system should be based off of the rage of nubs! We’ll start out weak, but as people rage and quit we’ll grow more and more powerful on the fumes of their anger.
After biding our time sowing anger and hate, we will rise up and reap our dark harvest of rage. Then, powered by our glorious spirits of hatred and bile, we will dominate our enemies and laugh as they all flee before our majesty. Even flaming us on the forums will be in vain, for it will only make us stronger.
why don’t you take your jokes to necromancer forums ?
cause your forum is clean , and you can actualy have decent discution regarding builds and counters , but no all the trash comes to thief’s forums.
Cause all the QQ’rs come and cry here on thief profesion forums, all the flame.
Did it ever come to your mind that we had enough and we don’t need your jokes ?
Pathetic.
I attend both Necromancer and Thief forum because I play them both.
Since this forum isn’t something like “The Thieves Refuge” but it is actually a place where people discuss about Thieves, than I don’t understand your attitude.
Also, if you are concerned about the trash, you should also be concerned about people making threads like “Nerf bat incoming”, “Backstab is OP but 20k dmg from 1200 range is not?”, “Backstab is fine…”, “Let me explain it to you: The backstab” and so on.
There are people trying to discuss about the thief state, but you guys look more concerned about preserving the status quo instead of actually talk about changes or balancing.
Each time there is a discussion about balancing, there is always a storm of “l2p noob”, “you’re bad” and so on, which is a clear index of the mental maturity of people hanging around here. And here we come with the same, stupid statement, based on the assumpion that everyone who criticizes the thief state is either a noob or a bad player.
So, as you don’t need my joke (which is intentionally stupid and worthless), so other people don’t need that kind of stupid jokes, like the one in the op. Plain and simple.
Pigeon-holing all thieves into one specific build is a very narrow minded approach. There are, in fact, many of us who choose to build in such a way that we do really need to reach a high skill cap to succeed. (i.e. any non stealth-oriented build, any sword build[post pistol whip nerf])
Yet, whenever I win a fight with a difficult build, I’m still subjected to hate spam about OP thief. While there may be some legitimate complaints about certain builds, there are just as many made by people who can’t accept they may just have lost to a superior player.
~Shadowkat
“Just make thieves increase power based on thieves players’ brain”
“I attend both Necromancer and Thief forum because I play them both”
So, Mr Sorrow, u like to be stupid, i gather?
Adapt or die. I never die.
I have the feeling that they are going to nerf the abilities that we actually use and compensate us by buffing the stuff we do not use like most venoms and all the traps.
We will continue not using the crappy stuff that they will buff, keep playing with the ones that got nerfed wile not being able to complaint about it because the answer will be “yes we nerfed the hell out of you but we buffed this couple of useless crap for you”
SWEET! I just bought GW2 and rolled a thief.
Good times ahead, I can tell!
Pigeon-holing all thieves into one specific build is a very narrow minded approach. There are, in fact, many of us who choose to build in such a way that we do really need to reach a high skill cap to succeed. (i.e. any non stealth-oriented build, any sword build[post pistol whip nerf])
Yet, whenever I win a fight with a difficult build, I’m still subjected to hate spam about OP thief. While there may be some legitimate complaints about certain builds, there are just as many made by people who can’t accept they may just have lost to a superior player.
That is another inconvenient effect to play a profession which has some overpowered builds.
People who are actually enjoy playing thief and like the challange, don’t run the gimmick build which is around and don’t cry about the past nerf (which were fair to be honest) or any future nerf, but still they are subject of the rage against a profession which is considered overpowered in common sense. Nerf to backstab combo will only help good players to stand out, while hurting only players who are abusing an overperforming build and will probably reroll to the next FotM profession once the nerf has spoken.
Pigeon-holing all thieves into one specific build is a very narrow minded approach. There are, in fact, many of us who choose to build in such a way that we do really need to reach a high skill cap to succeed. (i.e. any non stealth-oriented build, any sword build[post pistol whip nerf])
Yet, whenever I win a fight with a difficult build, I’m still subjected to hate spam about OP thief. While there may be some legitimate complaints about certain builds, there are just as many made by people who can’t accept they may just have lost to a superior player.
That is another inconvenient effect to play a profession which has some overpowered builds.
People who are actually enjoy playing thief and like the challange, don’t run the gimmick build which is around and don’t cry about the past nerf (which were fair to be honest) or any future nerf, but still they are subject of the rage against a profession which is considered overpowered in common sense. Nerf to backstab combo will only help good players to stand out, while hurting only players who are abusing an overperforming build and will probably reroll to the next FotM profession once the nerf has spoken.
I honestly look forward to the day when the “Find my build and rotation on google” mob moves on from the thief class leaving only the respectable players behind.
~Shadowkat
Y’know whats really funny – thief players thinking they win because they’re skilled!
Not every Thief runs a BS build (BS DOES require some skill to play effectively but that’s beside the point). Furthermore, A lot of us were here playing this class from the beginning long before all the FOTM nonsense started. So yeah we’re a little tired of our forums getting clogged with QQ (justifed or not, it’s not the appropriate place to post complaints). So excuse us if we’ve become a little terse.
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That was just a joke, too, just a parody of the stupid first post where u insult EVERY thief in the game, where as the OP made a genuine joke WITHOUT singling out any one (its up to you if u consider urself a nub or not). See what i did there?
You didn’t read my post yet, right?
Or you probably read it without getting the sense.
Yes i did. U said: “what about if thief power matched their brain capacity, so that they become UNDERPOWERED?”
Than u proceeded to inform us later that “i play both necro and thief”…
Not really smart, is it? Hence, my joke…
But keep going, this pvp is far better than gw’s ingame pvp.
Adapt or die. I never die.
I have the feeling that they are going to nerf the abilities that we actually use and compensate us by buffing the stuff we do not use like most venoms and all the traps.
We will continue not using the crappy stuff that they will buff, keep playing with the ones that got nerfed wile not being able to complaint about it because the answer will be “yes we nerfed the hell out of you but we buffed this couple of useless crap for you”
But by buffing the “crappy” stuff it might make it “useful”. Like what if it made the damaging poison (not sure what its called) be a different “poison” which allows it to stack intensity and not duration. or something, I don’t actually know but buffing the tools of a class after giving a damage nerf increases the required skillcap which means that all the theives who are saying “it takes skill to be a theif” can be proven right or wrong when it happens. to be honest I would prefer the skills which aren’t much use because they are underpowered to be buffed so we have a more diverse arsenal I am currently trying out a D/P P/D build build around getting in laying a poison and a few bleed stacks then jumping back out to range to hit them with pistol shots I think it might work but I will need to do some more work on it before I pull it out of my “testing” I still need to decide which skills to use with it to make it work.
Sometimes, luck is all you need.
For everything else theres Mastercard.
For everything else theres Mastercard.
why don’t you take your jokes to necromancer forums ?
cause your forum is clean , and you can actualy have decent discution regarding builds and counters , but no all the trash comes to thief’s forums.
Cause all the QQ’rs come and cry here on thief profesion forums, all the flame.
Did it ever come to your mind that we had enough and we don’t need your jokes ?
Pathetic.I attend both Necromancer and Thief forum because I play them both.
Since this forum isn’t something like “The Thieves Refuge” but it is actually a place where people discuss about Thieves, than I don’t understand your attitude.
Also, if you are concerned about the trash, you should also be concerned about people making threads like “Nerf bat incoming”, “Backstab is OP but 20k dmg from 1200 range is not?”, “Backstab is fine…”, “Let me explain it to you: The backstab” and so on.There are people trying to discuss about the thief state, but you guys look more concerned about preserving the status quo instead of actually talk about changes or balancing.
Each time there is a discussion about balancing, there is always a storm of “l2p noob”, “you’re bad” and so on, which is a clear index of the mental maturity of people hanging around here. And here we come with the same, stupid statement, based on the assumpion that everyone who criticizes the thief state is either a noob or a bad player.
So, as you don’t need my joke (which is intentionally stupid and worthless), so other people don’t need that kind of stupid jokes, like the one in the op. Plain and simple.
You use the word “gimmicky” and like so many others have no idea the meaning behind it, it really makes you look bad, and further perpetuate the doubt you play thief.
Let me give you a hint:
If A-net designed 90% of thief weaponsets and possible builds to be designed around 1-2 abilities, does that mean the player is using a gimmicky build? or the player is using the class as it was designed? Maybe, just maybe if the weapon sets and (some of the talents) were synergized to a role, this shroud of “gimmicky this” and “gimmicky that” would dissipate.
I have the feeling that they are going to nerf the abilities that we actually use and compensate us by buffing the stuff we do not use like most venoms and all the traps.
We will continue not using the crappy stuff that they will buff, keep playing with the ones that got nerfed wile not being able to complaint about it because the answer will be “yes we nerfed the hell out of you but we buffed this couple of useless crap for you”
But by buffing the “crappy” stuff it might make it “useful”. Like what if it made the damaging poison (not sure what its called) be a different “poison” which allows it to stack intensity and not duration. or something, I don’t actually know but buffing the tools of a class after giving a damage nerf increases the required skillcap which means that all the theives who are saying “it takes skill to be a theif” can be proven right or wrong when it happens. to be honest I would prefer the skills which aren’t much use because they are underpowered to be buffed so we have a more diverse arsenal I am currently trying out a D/P P/D build build around getting in laying a poison and a few bleed stacks then jumping back out to range to hit them with pistol shots I think it might work but I will need to do some more work on it before I pull it out of my “testing” I still need to decide which skills to use with it to make it work.
No point… In a few days there will be lot of changes..
As for the pistons and traps, they have been “improved” before and the improvements were minimal keeping the abilities useless, tbh I doubt they ever will usefull in competitive/casual pvp.
Specially traps, The base design of them does not match the profession and the benefits from them to the profession playstyles are none.
Poisons are simply week, easy to remove and are far from giving any meaningful advantage to the thief profession.
I seriously doubt that they will ever be any good specialy the way a-net balances things, nerfing hard and buffing in sprinkles.
(edited by Volrath.1473)
So, as you don’t need my joke (which is intentionally stupid and worthless), so other people don’t need that kind of stupid jokes, like the one in the op. Plain and simple.
OP joke was an response for all the flame topics over thieves.
Anyway why an necro / warrior / mesmer /ranger /guardian have more posts on thief forums , that on own forum ?
Cause they like to troll
I am guardian , thief backstab me 20 k damage
I am warrior thief backstab me 15k damage
When rarely an backstab reach over 6 k damage on 3000 defence, and that is from full glass cannons who take 3-4k damage from auto attacks.
So why you present interest for thief forums anyway ? because you like to troll them.
Does thieves go on necro’s forums and spam, we were 3 thieves and got owned by an condition necro ? please nerf . Should we go ? condition necro is good counter for thief, we should make 30 topics requesting nerf. But no we stay on our corner, so why you read topics with title "buff thief " . Cause if it was actualy an topic that requested an buff you would replayed with thief is already OP , learn to play
Yeah, a buff of any kind is totally needed:
you guys just make me sick, even the “thieves guild” skill has received nerf, WTF …
Can every other class get a nerf too in order to maintain the balance?
So, as you don’t need my joke (which is intentionally stupid and worthless), so other people don’t need that kind of stupid jokes, like the one in the op. Plain and simple.
OP joke was an response for all the flame topics over thieves.
Anyway why an necro / warrior / mesmer /ranger /guardian have more posts on thief forums , that on own forum ?
Cause they like to troll
I am guardian , thief backstab me 20 k damage
I am warrior thief backstab me 15k damage
When rarely an backstab reach over 6 k damage on 3000 defence, and that is from full glass cannons who take 3-4k damage from auto attacks.
So why you present interest for thief forums anyway ? because you like to troll them.
Does thieves go on necro’s forums and spam, we were 3 thieves and got owned by an condition necro ? please nerf . Should we go ? condition necro is good counter for thief, we should make 30 topics requesting nerf. But no we stay on our corner, so why you read topics with title "buff thief " . Cause if it was actualy an topic that requested an buff you would replayed with thief is already OP , learn to play
Condition Necro isn’t a counter to Thief.
Trust me, the guys who are playing thief aren’t different from the others playing the rest of profession.
If there is a class they consider overpowered, the complain will start also against that profession.
Do you remember the complaints against Guardian? They were coming from the most part from thieves who failed to kill them, then they realize that to counter them a boon removal or conditions were enough and then complaints stopped.
The situation about Thieves is different, because also ArenaNet stated that something is wrong, but you guys keep saying that people who complain about the profession are troll because they don’t agree with you.
Anyway, most people are not complaining about backstab only.
If you bothered to read the complains, you would know that most of them are related to the Backstab combo, which really deal 16k+ damage in a tiny window of time.
Yes i did. U said: “what about if thief power matched their brain capacity, so that they become UNDERPOWERED?”
Than u proceeded to inform us later that “i play both necro and thief”…
Not really smart, is it? Hence, my joke…
But keep going, this pvp is far better than gw’s ingame pvp.
I will not answer you until you read my post with your brain set “On”.
(edited by sorrow.2364)
Yeah, a buff of any kind is totally needed:
thank you for posting this video
Is exactly what ppls need to see , is exactly why ppls die vs thieves. It explains everything.
So 3 players (same party -probably team speak) harass an group of 10 + ppls, do daggerstorm same time without any kill.
2 ninja , probably lvl 20 , cause they had underlvl arrow, decide they can beat an team of 3 thieves and break the zerg . They go by turn vs 3 thieves and die.
some ppls try to help them but they still fight 1 / 2 ppls vs 3 thieves.
that’s untill 2.45. 2- 45 – 3.20 they outnumber the enemy’s as you can see the arrows flyes from sides . but the dagger storm got own efficiency. 3.20 -4.35 they made 3 kills out of 10 , his party member die and he finish 1 low lvl who chase him again.
4.35 -6:00 they killl ppls half afk who didn’t rushed intro tower with 0 contribution and with the help of ally’s left on wall + an warrior and lose the tower .6:00 – 7.45 he was totaly ignored even if he didn’ stealthed , killed enemy’s with help of ppls from the wall probably who were on balista’s
So what is so OP ?
if they were 3 warriors , all they had to do is jump with 3 GS combo and finished video in 2 minutes
Warriors are OP , enough sayed
(edited by Rayya.2591)
Yeah, a buff of any kind is totally needed:
Well….a buff to other people’s skill level is kind of called for. I see a lot of them trying to shoot the Thieves out of Dagger Storm. That’ll make a bad day for anyone.
What I really think we are seeing here is the use of the culling system vs. opposing swarms. Notice how most of those guys just ignore the spinning Thieves in the center of their mass? I would imagine there are at least a few skilled players in that group who would absolutely demolish 2-3 spinning Thieves in their midst if they could only see them.
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