[Build] Shortbus - Immortal Teef

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

Viking Jorun.5413

Hey all, it’s been a while since I’ve brought out any builds, so this time I thought I would do something a little different. Okay, you got me, a LOT different.

Hate dying? Like laughing at your enemies who can’t heal, can’t crit, and can’t catch you? Well, good! Without further ado, I present Shortbus, the invincible thief build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQFAVlYmiNney3E95EiXhvS7BDSTwU3jrar0KA-jUCBocA00A5cFRjtEMIVRRr+KsKdER16FYecFRrWKAIGDA-w

The Breakdown

  • Your condition duration is key. To maximize your non-damaging utility conditions (crippled, immobilized, vulnerability, weakness, we can lump poison in here too), you have a whopping 100% of the stuff.
  • I wanted to continue with the whole “being different” thing this build, so I’ve thrown in some traps here, along with Corrosive Traps to boost your personal damage on top of your might stacking, since your base damage is lacking.
  • Your offhand set is anything you’d like, but shortbow is your primary survival utility.

The Pros

  • You will not die with this build. Ever. Your kiting capabilities are far superior to any other class, and you’re able to troll zergs for days. For fun, carry plenty of supply and stealth traps along with putting 300 points into supply capacity for further trapping hilarity!
  • You’re always going to be focused being a thief, which is great for your team who can DPS down the targets while they try to kill you.
  • You can actually zerg and tag stuff? Farm them ranks!

The Cons

  • You hit like a wet noodle.
  • Don’t plan on killing anyone while solo roaming, you’re going to be engaged for upwards of a full minute if you’re set on getting a kill without a friend for burst. If you’re looking for scouting and not dying, this is the build for you. If you just like killing people in 2 shots, this is not your build.
  • A full set of exotic Sentinel gear costs almost as much as a full set of ascended. Soldier’s works as well, but is slightly less of a damage sponge in exchange for hitting slightly harder (not much, though).

I hope someone finds some fun in this build. I know I’ve had my share of it.

Also, Shortbus was supposed to be Shortbow, but I’m posting this on my phone and autocorrect happened. Happy mistake? I think so!

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Posted by: Gallows.4318

Gallows.4318

I like Shortbus better… that will stick :-)

Cheers for sharing.

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

No way – Shortbus is perfect.

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

Viking Jorun.5413

Any and all feedback is always welcome, guys.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

only made this thread bc he saw 2 other guys do similar. without htem doing it vikingjorun NEVER would have thought about it. hrmmm.

that aside…..

thief shortbow cant kill anyone. other weapons are made to be assassin type weapons…. pistol….dagger….sword even. with those 3 weapons … as a thief… u cannot really enter into a zerg and battle in the fray. even if u do choose to you pick 1 targt on the edge and try to neutralize him.

this is where shortbow comes in. in a 1v1 all its skills or so underpowered. but they give great well rounded utility. evades. poisons. cripples. bleeds. 1 spike hit. multiple target ricochet. blind. teleport. etc etc. u can die with this build very easily. the only way you dont is making sigil of agility plus evades + boon % time + short bow 3 spam. and that MIGHT keep you alive unless opponent is anub with no timing. SB isnt OP bc it cant even kill somebody in green armor. no need to nerf.

the only reason poison is being nerfed from 5 to 3 secs is bc that it stacks with other classes poisons in wvw/pvp and really starts to add up. thats when it becomes op. if poison field wasthe only poison on field it would be underwhelming ….. not til other classes add poison (which all can and do) does it become strong.

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

Viking Jorun.5413

What’s wrong with you Trav? All of my builds are completely theorycrafted on the spot, many taking hours to carefully construct. I know we’ve had out conflicts, but accusing me of stealing other people’s builds and calling me stupid because I “never” would have thought of it is uncalled for and rude.

Shortbow isn’t meant for killing people in this build. It’s not meant for solo roaming if you’re planning on getting kills. I pointed that out. You should have read my post. This build is for surviving everything that comes in your way and supporting your havoc team if you run with one. Most every build I craft is a team build, and I know what I’m doing as I’ve been giving you guys builds for nearly a year now.

You’re also completely and utterly wrong in every one of your points. You’re arguing the fundamental flaws with the class and weapon. I’m sorry, but you can’t die easily with this build at all. Maybe if you tried it out instead of speculating theoretical situations (and not even well at that) we’d all see just how great you are. Go ahead and post another vid, Trav.

The reason poison is being nerfed is because it was stacking 5 seconds per pulse, which would add up to 25 seconds per spammable field, easily generating over a minute of poison with enough pressure. That is OP. Nobody’s arguing with the duration nerf.

Also, please link me these “2 other guys who did similar”, because it really feels like you’re taking a personal stab at me.

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Posted by: Karolis.4261

Karolis.4261

Let me shine some light to you. 15 s of poison is as op as 25s is as op as 25min. It doesnt do more damage because it has huge uptime. Either its 15s or 25 min u will want to remove it.. All it takes to get rid of it is single condi cleanse, no matter its 15s or 25 min.

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

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Let me shine some light to you. 15 s of poison is as op as 25s is as op as 25min. It doesnt do more damage because it has huge uptime. Either its 15s or 25 min u will want to remove it.. All it takes to get rid of it is single condi cleanse, no matter its 15s or 25 min.

I fully agree. However, it does reduce healing potential and not everyone is going to carry enough Condi removal to remove that 30 seconds of pitiful healing, so I get where ANet is coming from on that. Anything to reduce the effectiveness of conditions is okay in my book. Alone and individually they’re not good at all. It’s when you go and start adding them together that things get out of hand.

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Posted by: Faeyd.5094

Faeyd.5094

Hey all, it’s been a while since I’ve brought out any builds, so this time I thought I would do something a little different. Okay, you got me, a LOT different.
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I hope someone finds some fun in this build. I know I’ve had my share of it.

Also, Shortbus was supposed to be Shortbow, but I’m posting this on my phone and autocorrect happened. Happy mistake? I think so!

I like the intent and it’s good to see something a bit different. I think most folks in this game feel there are a few specs that you must play or you can’t play the game… almost anything works in the right hands.

The only thing I struggle with Viking is that an Apothecary thief in WvW and Shaman thief in sPvP is far more immortal and kills much easier So I will always play with your specs for fun, but when I want to go ‘immortal’ I defer to heavy stealth+condition+healing. I find it just as easy to kill in WvW or PvP on heavy heal as heavy power… they just don’t realise they’re dead til a bit later

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

Viking Jorun.5413

Hey all, it’s been a while since I’ve brought out any builds, so this time I thought I would do something a little different. Okay, you got me, a LOT different.
Snip

I hope someone finds some fun in this build. I know I’ve had my share of it.

Also, Shortbus was supposed to be Shortbow, but I’m posting this on my phone and autocorrect happened. Happy mistake? I think so!

I like the intent and it’s good to see something a bit different. I think most folks in this game feel there are a few specs that you must play or you can’t play the game… almost anything works in the right hands.

The only thing I struggle with Viking is that an Apothecary thief in WvW and Shaman thief in sPvP is far more immortal and kills much easier So I will always play with your specs for fun, but when I want to go ‘immortal’ I defer to heavy stealth+condition+healing. I find it just as easy to kill in WvW or PvP on heavy heal as heavy power… they just don’t realise they’re dead til a bit later

Thanks!

I’ve already posted an apothecary D/D build, and I like to keep some pretty substantial differences between all of my builds, making each one as unique as the last. Otherwise, it just looks like a variation of the next guy’s build. This one also uses far less stealth than Apoco D/D, which makes it a pretty decent home/mid evade bunker.

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Posted by: K U T M.4539

K U T M.4539

8 sec panic strike immob

lord save us

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8 sec panic strike immob

lord save us

And people thought Pin Down was OP… Hehehe