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Posted by: Yashuoa.9527

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I would like some tips vs burnzerker warriors.
You know, those burn condi ones with mace shield and sword torch and almost 30k health.

As deadly arts/trickery/daredevil, I find them to be quite difficult.
Regardless of weapons.

What kind of tactics would you recommend?

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Posted by: Orion.3812

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Good timing of dodges to remove condis, assuming you have that trait. That said…

Daredevil is not a full replacement for Shadow Arts survivability against condition builds. If you want to wreck condi builds, take both DD and SA.

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Posted by: Fat Disgrace.4275

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all i can say is, hide, disengage when they enter berserk mode. its like any fight – the thief has the fight as long as he can wait. do you burst a warrior when they pop endure pain? same thing tbh, just back off, hide if you must.

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Posted by: Yashuoa.9527

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I am talking 1 on 1 btw.

Good timing of dodges to remove condis, assuming you have that trait. That said…

Daredevil is not a full replacement for Shadow Arts survivability against condition builds. If you want to wreck condi builds, take both DD and SA.

DD, SA and Trickery?
Acrobatics will help less vs condi?

Thief is an alt. I havent really tryed shadowarts much in pvp.
Ill give that a try.

How does shadow’s embrace interact with Hide in shadows?
Hide in shadows happens first and than shadow’s embrace?

Yeah I have that daredevil trait.
It only cleanses a condi if you actually evade an attack correct?
Meaning that if you dodge while the enemy doesnt attack=no condi clenased.

all i can say is, hide, disengage when they enter berserk mode. its like any fight – the thief has the fight as long as he can wait. do you burst a warrior when they pop endure pain? same thing tbh, just back off, hide if you must.

No I dont burst a warrior during endure pain :P.

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Posted by: alchemyst.2165

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I’m still having a bit of trouble with these and stunlock zerkers with mace. I tend to use similar tactics with both so I guess it could apply here.

I run at least 2 stunbreaks at all times (shadow step and Bandits defense) sometimes 3, that being roll for initiative. I try to keep pressure on them when they’re not in zerker stance. Once they go for a headbutt I usually use a bandit’s defense and block for the whole thing, then kick if they don’t have stab or I have steal so I can rip. I keep some pressure, trying to get a small burst off during the knockdown window then kite around for the duration of their zerker stance. Basically rinse and repeat. The key is keeping sustained damage on them while staying fairly alert.

Hope that helps.

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Posted by: IDICERI.4268

IDICERI.4268

Force them into Berserker mode and disengage. When they stop glowing red usually you will have 15 seconds to kill them before they can go berserk again. They don’t have great sustain. Most rely on Healing Signet, so about 5730 healing in that 15 seconds. With adrenaline heal bonus they can increase that to a little over 6000 hp on average over 15 seconds. Take d/p go in with shadow shot force berserker mode(he will use Headbutt first then cancel with Outrage and stack a few burns on you). Get ready to use shadow step and wait for him to stop glowing. Prep Basilisk venom> Pistol 5> Heartseeker+steal(you land heart seeker and steal at the same time and stealth while he is stunned go for a backstab and aa while mitigating damage with black powder and shadow shot, until his endure pain kicks in). Wait it out in stealth or at a distance and shadow shot back in after 4 seconds and finish the job. I usually go DD/DA/TR and bring the dash dodge and remove condi on evade.

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Posted by: Fat Disgrace.4275

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I currently run this in pvp, it relys being stunned for sustain, in wvw I hit thives with headbut for an avg of 6k, its also an instant stun breaker. i know this is not the same build as the burn zerker, but just some things to look out for.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAneRnMdAlhgdhAmkCElilrA7d0WaXtK5gWXNAJAkASdA-TpBHwADOBAGOEAEOCAd2fAwDAoZZAA

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Posted by: Taobella.6597

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i was just practicing against my guildie burn warrior build i found spacing yourself around 300 range is very helpful make it easy to dodge the burns you need to heavily rely on landing your steal for reflecting sword burst. you will not win simply threw your dodge bar alone you need some weapon set that has evaing on it to prolong fight long enough roughly around 30s burn warrior start to run out of utility for a about 10 seconds where you start to really burst him.

i can link you the build i was beating him with. i warn you i was not gear out properly as you will see on weapons, or even running food to be effective.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoYVn0MBFmitNBemC0PhFZCbeDGCLha7ppQAwbL0G+QA-TFTBQB4RPwEV+ZINBV4QAsQ1fa2RA4cLMsgHAgFUCOOzfRbfAAcCAEFEbB-w