Guild Wars 2

hi there was roaming last night and ran into Aikijin had a 1v1 and got wrecked by him. we started having a bit of a chat about how bad this condi meta is and how our hp pool is very low for this meta etc. this is what we came up with

so it your standard d/d trait lines a 2/6/6/0/0 but using speed runes and valk armor- and zerk,valk trinkets. to reach the 22k you do need guard stacks

i have lost a little bit of dps but easily gained back just by changing food. I have only tested this for maybe a few hours but so far its has been great.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQJAoYlsMp0pVOx7J8PNBNBt9wbQI4uGrYGaFAA-TFCFwAr1BA4EAI4BAkU5HflgZ0Cgb/BVq/EA4Agnfe4nHe4SBYuwI-w

An interesting build. Question though. Is the goal simply that extra vitality or is it for the speed/swiftness as well?

As example suppose you used Exuberance for the Vitality. You would get the same amount + around 100 more power and 50 more precision. One sigil (fire or air) swapped with sigil of speed.

That 100 power is always there damage wise as opposed to a sigil which goes off randomly and in my own testing of sigil of speed I was easily getting what was in essence permanent swiftness just in regular combat.

Or use wurm with the same vitality and even higher ferocity. Extra ferocity will be around +200 which should mean around 15 percent damage on every crit.

Its a pretty well rounded build, but lacking a little bit of power imo.
Have you thought about using Runes of the Pack? +100 power/125 precision and in combat, the swiftness up-time is roughly 50%. If you’re using shadows rejuv on the SA trait, do you really need the lifesteal of the omnom? There are options such as 100power/70 prec or 100power/70 ferocity and with infiltrator’s sigil, the trait Signets of Power works well with the burst damage :]

babazhook.6805:

An interesting build. Question though. Is the goal simply that extra vitality or is it for the speed/swiftness as well?

As example suppose you used Exuberance for the Vitality. You would get the same amount + around 100 more power and 50 more precision. One sigil (fire or air) swapped with sigil of speed.

That 100 power is always there damage wise as opposed to a sigil which goes off randomly and in my own testing of sigil of speed I was easily getting what was in essence permanent swiftness just in regular combat.

Or use wurm with the same vitality and even higher ferocity. Extra ferocity will be around +200 which should mean around 15 percent damage on every crit.

i find as a d/d build the 25% speed is to good to give up and also the extra hp really helps with the meta. i have swapped and put speed sigil in and also ran 0/6/6/2/0 for swiftness on dodge and vigor on heal see how it goes without mug . ty for the advice guys will try it all out

ngdani.9482:

Its a pretty well rounded build, but lacking a little bit of power imo.
Have you thought about using Runes of the Pack? +100 power/125 precision and in combat, the swiftness up-time is roughly 50%. If you’re using shadows rejuv on the SA trait, do you really need the lifesteal of the omnom? There are options such as 100power/70 prec or 100power/70 ferocity and with infiltrator’s sigil, the trait Signets of Power works well with the burst damage :]

yes i have tried pack runes but seem to like the speed runes more for the hp and the 25% speed ans yes with the food i am changing to power/prec

fabz.4736:

yes i have tried pack runes but seem to like the speed runes more for the hp and the 25% speed ans yes with the food i am changing to power/prec

haha yeah, for me, the utilities are essential for D/D and im too used to having 25% ms with travelers to give it up XD everything just feels too slowwww

Ihave using speed rune too for quit some time
It’s good against the meta but lack the power you need
So it’s depend on how well you fight ie if you know o dodge the right moment and stealth you don’t need hp rather than power and vice verca

Hidden Killer is all you need from source of damage on D/D. You’re over 2k power which is actually where you should be. The utility free up is really essential, and near to perma swiftness, offers a great way to keep up with pace of fights (via chasing or tactical retreating)

I still prefer full zerker D/D. You said you lost a little DPS, but you’ve lost a whopping 500 power. Not to mention you don’t crit as much on non-stealth attacks.

Zach.3264:

I still prefer full zerker D/D. You said you lost a little DPS, but you’ve lost a whopping 500 power. Not to mention you don’t crit as much on non-stealth attacks.

48% crit chance is more then enough for auto attacks. . i still get really good bs dmg into condi classes but i have the vitality now to stay in there longer and keep the pressure on them. for me im happy to give away some dmg for extra 8-9k hp. Full zerk alot of thieves do still run this and im able to down them in 2-3hits. but everyone has there playstyle.

I always run in this build for http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoYVlsMp7pVOx0J8PNRPRsdwyD3TjhddD-TVCEABG8CA6SJ4iq/IlyjmUily+DtpPAgDBwDHBgAAIA3sNbzbGYoDdoDdoDtbezbO0hO0SBwkyI-w works vs condi and direct

I’ve also been mulling through different armor/rune/trait setups and found myself trying to hold onto my pvt set but also wanted to maintain the tough/vit but generate some dmg as well. I started using Rune of wurm and full pvt exotic and zerk weapons and am generally pleased atm. Typically running 6/6/wha/te/ver. Might post but I’m. Sure it has been tested/tried before. Anyone else use?

LOL almost my same build!!

Aikijin such a nice guy always sharing and helping this community . . . .

and also a kitten when dueling xD . . .

Thanks keep sharing!

SoLeciTO.3490:

LOL almost my same build!!

Aikijin such a nice guy always sharing and helping this community . . . .

and also a kitten when dueling xD . . .

Thanks keep sharing!

I’m blushing :*