Guild Wars 2

Wasn’t going to post this but there’s probably a few things people can learn from it.
I was asked to duel Kronos, video is uncut start to finish and lasts just over 1 hour & 30 minutes.

Basically as the video description says:
Some D/P rust (insignificant) and sleep deprivation – duels against Kronos.
Just some personal observations from the duels;
Kronos Strengths:
-Stealth mechanics (tracking via unload [timing], stealth stacking [WvW experience])
-Intuition
-Cooldown Management

Weaknesses:
-Shortbow mechanics
-Instantly uses steal skill when acquired

My own Strengths:
-Mechanics
-Terrain use/Positioning
-Adapt well to other players
-Cooldown Management
-Intuition

Weaknesses:
-Stealth play/stacking
-Could improve time to learn player’s habits
-Impatient (generally not the case)

Overall it was good practice, and I actually learned quite a bit about the match up in regards to stealth play. Unfortunately I was too tired to realize any of this until after.

Points in the Video:
29:00 Duels on (roughly) the same build occur.
At some point in here he switches to Hide in Shadows.
34:50 Kronos switches from P/P to Shortbow.
1:24:50 Salty guildy loses every duel on Ele, following it up with vintage whine.

http://youtu.be/C_dxpfLm1LU

It was fun and I would do more if he asks. Feel free to comment and pick me apart if you’re so inclined. Hope I don’t offend him by uploading it ^^

Cheers,
-Caedalade

Fun watch. So much double dodging. He has an interesting playstyle. It’s quite entertaining to watch you miss Steal so many times to the Black Powder double dodge bait. But hats off to the consistent wins against D/P + P/P. Pistol pewpew OP in thief vs thief.
Edit: That duel at 25:25 tho.

you didn’t bow!!!111 it does not count!!11

Thanks for posting this, lot of fun to watch. Always like your duels.

I wasn’t going to say anything. But here’s a few things I noticed about you Caed. Oh, just a gentle reminder to who I am. I’m the ranger that you dueled after eva and the other ranger. The player that’s only been on ranger for 5 hours max. That you won 3-2 against. Idk, that would be pretty embarrassing in my eyes. I didn’t say anything at the time about your duel courtesy because I didn’t want to seem like a “salt mine” as you so eloquently put it for my other guildie. But after watching it happen over and over, I felt like I needed to say something here.

You ALWAYS jump early in the duel. You just say R, then go on your behalf. You don’t bow. If you do bow, you don’t wait for the other person to finish their bow which is common courtesy. Then you abuse the map heavily. I remember dueling you in forest map and it went to the keep…How does that even happen? I also watched you exit out of combat 5 times in a row versus Kronos when you blew all your cool downs.

So let me correct you there. Kronos is a far better mechanically skilled thief than you. You just use the map/terrain to your advantage better. He landed his steals more than you did. You stealthed just as much as he did.

And he dueled you mirror out of courtesy. Least you could do is return the same courtesy towards him instead of jumping early, abusing the hell out of LoS, exiting out of combat, and killing him when he downed you and just wanted to leave combat but you downed him with auto and killed him when he didn’t fight back. That’s just rude.

While I’m certainly not calling you a bad thief, you definitely gave me a fight on my ranger despite my lack of experience on it. I just understand gw2 pvp mechanics and the gist of ranger skills to play it well than most do in your defense. But I just didn’t appreciate your duel manners. That’s all. Tpvp fights and duels are two entirely separate thing because they both have their own unspoken rule to it. But maybe now you’ll follow the duel courtesy and hopefully you guys can have more fights in the future where you can help each other improve even more. And it’s cool that you gave yourself and him a critique of play styles and all. That’s the best way to learn. Kronos told me he did learn something from your duels. Which is learning how to use the map more if others are using it but it’s generally frowned upon in a formal duel instead of a tpvp setting. You lost the first 5 or so duel then went full tpvp mode. Anyways, other than the points I’ve listed above, good video. Have a nice day and good luck with your schooling. I’m in the same boat as well, last semester and such. Going to be crazy busy with my final thesis.

I lost the first two and won 3 in a row, with full HP. The game is about learning other players as much as it is learning the class – people who are new to classes have their own strengths in unpredictability and doing things that the general population doesn’t.

I never said anything bad about Kronos, quite the opposite. Not sure why your entire guild besides Yukie and Kronos is a salt mine who cries as every little thing. I hit him in downstate when we’re both low – I don’t really care who wins it’s more to mess around. I had fun while playing those. On top of that a lot of those duels come down to RNG when both parties are low health (crits, improvisation procs, air/fire) and that goes for both sides. You saying he’s mechanically better is opinion that could be argued by anyone, I stated my opinion on it and if you don’t agree that’s fine. I respect the opinions of others even if I don’t agree with them.

As for jumping early, I waited every time bar one or two where it looked like he was going on me (used Basilisk and Black Powder). The chat is in the vod, anyone can see that.

I don’t mind if you don’t agree with me but it’s sad how you and your guild loses their mind over every little thing that rubs you the wrong way. People are different, learn to realize that and interact in a positive way – especially in a game where it doesn’t really matter who thinks or does what. Lighten up and you’ll probably find yourself in a better mood if you stop taking everything people say so personally.

PS. Good luck with your thesis, knock ’em dead. ^^

loael… fun stuff to bad Kronos cant team Q >>><<< This situation reminds me of when Lettuce called Backpack out… >> Then backpack 100-0ed kronos like 5 times engi v engi… Lettuce Bmed backpack, then Engi v Thief, backpack stayed 100% while kronos kept reseting in stealth for 30mins before calling it a “tie”

OzarcTheDefialer.5346:

loael… fun stuff to bad Kronos cant team Q >>><<< This situation reminds me of when Lettuce called Backpack out… >> Then backpack 100-0ed kronos like 5 times engi v engi… Lettuce Bmed backpack, then Engi v Thief, backpack stayed 100% while kronos kept reseting in stealth for 30mins before calling it a “tie”

I was there and backpack didn’t 100-0 kronos engi vs engi, it was more like backpack almost lost three of them but used some controversial LOS to his advantage and turned it around later. I’d say that’s pretty embarrassing already as backpack mains engi, has macros for engi and kronos doesn’t (to both).
And idk why you think a celestial meta engi accomplished something by staying alive vs a thief in a ONE v ONE encounter. I’ll applaud backpack if he can do the same vs kronos’ mesmer.

Your entire post and pic shows that you’re really kitten about kronos and his guild and just care way too much. Calm down.

Good fights overall, having fought both of you. I think shadowstepping out of the arena to go under the bridge to heal was slightly cheap, as well as abusing that ledge on the gate way too hard (If anyone uses that ledge in my duels I just restart the round, it is extremely buggy with phantasms/blinks and gives way too much of an advantage for recovering). Recently, dueling in general has been more about abusing the map rather then outplaying someone, so I just got to adapt I guess….

NOM.9712:

I was there and backpack didn’t 100-0 kronos engi vs engi, it was more like backpack almost lost three of them but used some controversial LOS to his advantage and turned it around later. I’d say that’s pretty embarrassing already as backpack mains engi, has macros for engi and kronos doesn’t (to both).
And idk why you think a celestial meta engi accomplished something by staying alive vs a thief in a ONE v ONE encounter. I’ll applaud backpack if he can do the same vs kronos’ mesmer.

Your entire post and pic shows that you’re really kitten about kronos and his guild and just care way too much. Calm down.

Didn’t want to get into this… but this post is just funny.

“Controversial” LOS?

Is strafing projectiles “Controversial” as well?

Meh. Even in EU 1v1 servers people don’t /bow before duels. They just say “r”, or will just start using a ranged attack. No need for all this formality: if a player is kittened by the other player’s behaviour, he will say it out loud.
Even in the Obisdian Sanctum, in which /bow is important, I usually don’t wait for the full bowing animation and will start attacking the moment they do. If they are kittened, we will just do another duel after that and they will do the same to me – I don’t care :P

This aside, good fights. But Caed misses Steal too many times on a class that should be quite easy to read

Narcarsis.5739:

I lost the first two and won 3 in a row, with full HP. The game is about learning other players as much as it is learning the class – people who are new to classes have their own strengths in unpredictability and doing things that the general population doesn’t.

I never said anything bad about Kronos, quite the opposite. Not sure why your entire guild besides Yukie and Kronos is a salt mine who cries as every little thing. I hit him in downstate when we’re both low – I don’t really care who wins it’s more to mess around. I had fun while playing those. On top of that a lot of those duels come down to RNG when both parties are low health (crits, improvisation procs, air/fire) and that goes for both sides. You saying he’s mechanically better is opinion that could be argued by anyone, I stated my opinion on it and if you don’t agree that’s fine. I respect the opinions of others even if I don’t agree with them.

As for jumping early, I waited every time bar one or two where it looked like he was going on me (used Basilisk and Black Powder). The chat is in the vod, anyone can see that.

I don’t mind if you don’t agree with me but it’s sad how you and your guild loses their mind over every little thing that rubs you the wrong way. People are different, learn to realize that and interact in a positive way – especially in a game where it doesn’t really matter who thinks or does what. Lighten up and you’ll probably find yourself in a better mood if you stop taking everything people say so personally.

I’m perfectly calm. Just thought it was particularly odd that you played the way you did when he did everything out of respect for you aka play mirror spec, etc. He dueled you for fun and casually. Then you uploaded the video. Which makes no sense to me. Maybe you wanted feedback on your gameplay? Idk. And if I lost my mind, I would have QQ’ed there and then when we dueled on my 5 hour ranger. I didn’t though. It accomplishes nothing. But when you say things like “Mechanically better”…That’s where I have to step in and say…Um, maybe you just abuse the map better is more politically correct to say. As rytlock pointed out, shadow stepping out of the area to heal under the bridge is pretty cheap and low. You just went full tpvp mode. Kronos could have done that but he didn’t.

The mere fact he made you go out of combat and reset the fight and pull cheap moves like you did…Really reinforces that he’s mechanically better…No? That’s just my logic. Agree? I think that actually makes sense. Kronos even conceded that you have superior map awareness than he does. But as for thief mechanics, I strongly think otherwise. He’s superior.

And thanks. I’ll need that luck for my thesis.

I recorded in the first place because I know your guild likes to exaggerate things that actually happen, and kitten talk everyone who disagrees with them. I uploaded it because I thought it would be beneficial to other players.

I dueled him on no sleep because I was asked to, I did change my build which is fairly apparent in the video. I never asked him to change, it was your guild who asked me. Furthermore stacking stealth isn’t what I would consider mechanics. He loses trades and stacks stealth until he can regen. I missed steals because I was playing impatiently – which I would attribute to the sleep deprivation but I didn’t really mention it because I don’t care. You have your opinion, and I have mine. People can also form their own watching it. Have a good one ^^

To put it in layman’s terms we’re both doing the same thing through different means; stealth vs terrain use.

Narcarsis.5739:

I recorded in the first place because I know your guild likes to exaggerate things that actually happen, and kitten talk everyone who disagrees with them. I uploaded it because I thought it would be beneficial to other players.

I dueled him on no sleep because I was asked to, I did change my build which is fairly apparent in the video. I never asked him to change, it was your guild who asked me. Furthermore stacking stealth isn’t what I would consider mechanics. He loses trades and stacks stealth until he can regen. I missed steals because I was playing impatiently – which I would attribute to the sleep deprivation but I didn’t really mention it because I don’t care. You have your opinion, and I have mine. People can also form their own watching it. Have a good one ^^

I’m gonna disagree with lettuce here. I don’t think there was much of a problem with your map usage, aside from maybe ethical reasons but there is definitely some skill involved in effectively mitigating damage with positioning when you’re out of cooldowns.

But while I wouldn’t call the stealth spamming mechanical,
I noted how you were saying R as soon as you got back up from downstate so that when he typed R or bowed back, you could open on him quickly.
Overall after watching the video, I would say that in the fights where you didn’t just burst him in the beginning (Actually quite rare) and forced him to stealth or lose, you lost trades just as much as he did if not more due to missing steal. Just my two cents.

Yea, I missed steal a lot (which I attribute to my own misplay and impatience). Cost a majority of my losses.
As for saying ‘r’ I’m just conditioned to going without waiting for cooldowns because it’s more realistic to what happens in games.

What I meant by map usage was just for example, going out of combat. That’s an obvious unethical duel thing to do. But like I said, you guys can always duel and learn from each other. Just my two cents though.

If you think I left combat on purpose I can show you what it means to abuse that system. Rock dog has more than one use ^^

Entertaining video. It looked to me like you both gave fair notice to each other at the beginning of each fight so I don’t see how it matters whether it’s an “r” or a bow.

Were there any agreed upon rules preceding these contests?

It takes two to get out of combat. Just some food for thought.

Who cares about bowing? If you start 1500+ range away from each other, it should be obvious when the duel starts because someone will either lay down black powder or start moving towards the opponent.

Abusing terrain is more controversial, since WvW players usually don’t do that stuff, and OS doesn’t really facilitate that kind of tactic. That said, Kronos still lost a good number of duels without any terrain uses, so it’s not like you can chalk up the losses to map alone.

Lastly, I can’t believe all the defense mechanisms, fanboyism, excuses, and salt spilled over 1v1’s. No one takes 1v1 heroes seriously, since the game is balanced around team fights. Watching two d/p thieves try to outstealth each other is like watching air fight itself.

Caed, thanks for the duels. I’m the “salty” ele, who actually wasn’t salty.

I am one of the old WvWers who just likes bowing better. Gives both people a chance to start running at each other at the same time, and since I don’t play with a keyboard, I lose a second or two as my hands leave the keyboard.

Anyways, addressing the “lost all the duels” yes, but really is that an accomplishment for you? Beating a valk d/d ele with P/D? I could easily switch to D/F and win, but then you could switch to D/P and just survive.

You’re playing build wars two here, nothing more, nothing less.

Best of luck with your studies.

PD is superior in dueling compare to SB, SB is a tpvp weapon.

thing is be good at tpvp takes way more compare to be good at dueling.

dueling in this game is just lol especially in wvw
main reason why kronos better at stealth stacking, because as a thief in a duel wvw, you abuse stealth more better chance you win
in tpvp is completely different and have more factor in winning.

Well I can’t watch the dang duels because apparently it isn’t allowed in Germany. I don’t give a crap who’s better or worse, or who played fair or unfair and what not…I just wanna watch the dang duels!!!!

Nice duels. Remember kids, never buy a keyboard with MX Blues :P

Once you go mx black, you never go back.

I think bowing is actually a lot worse b/c players may:

break out of the bow early and initiate first

initiate during someone elses bow

bow out of sync and initiate first

bow too close and initiate first

This is a common problem among players that face off against strangers especially during their first few duels; however, if you’re dueling a friend or well known player for extended periods of time then there should be no problem if their indication of being ready is typing R, bowing, or autoattacking from out of range. If one person has an issue with that then speak up instead of mentioning it 2hrs later and getting upset about it.

Micro Hard.3601:

I think bowing is actually a lot worse b/c players may:

break out of the bow early and initiate first

initiate during someone elses bow

bow out of sync and initiate first

bow too close and initiate first

This is a common problem among players that face off against strangers especially during their first few duels; however, if you’re dueling a friend or well known player for extended periods of time then there should be no problem if their indication of being ready is typing R, bowing, or autoattacking from out of range. If one person has an issue with that then speak up instead of mentioning it 2hrs later and getting upset about it.

i count as long as there’s bow dialog in the chatbox, animation doesnt really matter.
and out of sync bow doesnt really matter because it’s like not even 1 second, and you should start a duel when both are pretty far away from each other anyway

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

shimmerless.4560:

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Maybe you should learn to read before going on a nonsense rant like you just did? Grow up. Re read the entire thread then re read what you just said and you’ll see how way off the point you just were.

Just in case you are too much of a simpleton to figure it out, they mirror dueled. No build wars going on here, bud.

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Maybe you should learn to read before going on a nonsense rant like you just did? Grow up. Re read the entire thread then re read what you just said and you’ll see how way off the point you just were.

Just in case you are too much of a simpleton to figure it out, they mirror dueled. No build wars going on here, bud.

Mbelch.9028:

Anyways, addressing the “lost all the duels” yes, but really is that an accomplishment for you? Beating a valk d/d ele with P/D? I could easily switch to D/F and win, but then you could switch to D/P and just survive.
You’re playing build wars two here, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes reading comprehension is so hard, honey. Then again I suppose my mind would be just as addled were I still a Wubwub hero.

shimmerless.4560:

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Maybe you should learn to read before going on a nonsense rant like you just did? Grow up. Re read the entire thread then re read what you just said and you’ll see how way off the point you just were.

Just in case you are too much of a simpleton to figure it out, they mirror dueled. No build wars going on here, bud.

Mbelch.9028:

Anyways, addressing the “lost all the duels” yes, but really is that an accomplishment for you? Beating a valk d/d ele with P/D? I could easily switch to D/F and win, but then you could switch to D/P and just survive.
You’re playing build wars two here, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes reading comprehension is so hard, honey. Then again I suppose my mind would be just as addled were I still a Wubwub hero.

You had no problem raging at fear in 2013 in game, please don’t be so coy here.

What a joke. I have no food for the troll, and besides, I was speaking to Caed, not you.

Mbelch.9028:

shimmerless.4560:

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Maybe you should learn to read before going on a nonsense rant like you just did? Grow up. Re read the entire thread then re read what you just said and you’ll see how way off the point you just were.

Just in case you are too much of a simpleton to figure it out, they mirror dueled. No build wars going on here, bud.

Mbelch.9028:

Anyways, addressing the “lost all the duels” yes, but really is that an accomplishment for you? Beating a valk d/d ele with P/D? I could easily switch to D/F and win, but then you could switch to D/P and just survive.
You’re playing build wars two here, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes reading comprehension is so hard, honey. Then again I suppose my mind would be just as addled were I still a Wubwub hero.

You had no problem raging at fear in 2013 in game, please don’t be so coy here.

What a joke. I have no food for the troll, and besides, I was speaking to Caed, not you.

Excuse me? Are you confused with someone else? I have never been familiar with yourself nor your guild in game (let alone in 2013?) and the sole reason you stand out at all is that you dog-piled and trashed on Caed’s thread about a D/P guide which myself and many others would have rather appreciated.

Oh and by the same token, I was responding to Lettuce.2945, not yourself. You are a hopeless case at this point hon.

What did we learn here?

Kronos not that good unless he’s using SA or Pistol mainhand AKA WvW cancer specs

Caed clearly better once they mirror comped

Nothing new really… WvW heros carried by imbalanced stats get exposed once they enter PvP and can’t cheese anymore

Caed why don’t you place 2 points in SA? Shadow’s embrace.

I find other traits more appealing and I dislike the minor. Auto stealth gets you killed with reveal as much as it saves you, the proc is inconsistent.

Does your power P/D build usually destroy eles, or were your duels at the end vs. Belch an anomaly?

shimmerless.4560:

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Maybe you should learn to read before going on a nonsense rant like you just did? Grow up. Re read the entire thread then re read what you just said and you’ll see how way off the point you just were.

Just in case you are too much of a simpleton to figure it out, they mirror dueled. No build wars going on here, bud.

Mbelch.9028:

Anyways, addressing the “lost all the duels” yes, but really is that an accomplishment for you? Beating a valk d/d ele with P/D? I could easily switch to D/F and win, but then you could switch to D/P and just survive.
You’re playing build wars two here, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes reading comprehension is so hard, honey. Then again I suppose my mind would be just as addled were I still a Wubwub hero.

The thread is titled Caed v. Kronos duels. I could care less about the last couple minutes of the video. So, learn to read again. Stay in the ballpark. No need to jettison yourself to space instead.

Narkodx.1472:

What did we learn here?

Kronos not that good unless he’s using SA or Pistol mainhand AKA WvW cancer specs

Caed clearly better once they mirror comped

Nothing new really… WvW heros carried by imbalanced stats get exposed once they enter PvP and can’t cheese anymore

If you’re going to count the times caed just blew a full inf signet combo on Kronos at the start. And the ledge camping. Because other than that it seemed fairly back and forth.
Yet, mind you Kronos plays SD. I’d like to see them SD duel as he was probably trying to do caed a courtesy by playing DP SB when they asked him to duel caed. That was Caed’s main weapon sets as far as I know.

The real take away here is that there simply isn’t enough Minion masters in this game, and they clearly need love from the devs. Everyone should be on the same page now? :}

Hi Caed.

People still take this game seriously? Lol

Narkodx.1472:

What did we learn here?

Kronos not that good unless he’s using SA or Pistol mainhand AKA WvW cancer specs

Caed clearly better once they mirror comped

Nothing new really… WvW heros carried by imbalanced stats get exposed once they enter PvP and can’t cheese anymore

Do you really believe that? I pity you if you do… you do realize they dumbed down the combat for Pvp right?

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Maybe you should learn to read before going on a nonsense rant like you just did? Grow up. Re read the entire thread then re read what you just said and you’ll see how way off the point you just were.

Just in case you are too much of a simpleton to figure it out, they mirror dueled. No build wars going on here, bud.

Mbelch.9028:

Anyways, addressing the “lost all the duels” yes, but really is that an accomplishment for you? Beating a valk d/d ele with P/D? I could easily switch to D/F and win, but then you could switch to D/P and just survive.
You’re playing build wars two here, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes reading comprehension is so hard, honey. Then again I suppose my mind would be just as addled were I still a Wubwub hero.

The thread is titled Caed v. Kronos duels. I could care less about the last couple minutes of the video. So, learn to read again. Stay in the ballpark. No need to jettison yourself to space instead.

Quite.

On that note I actually watched some parts of the video (apologies but it does clock at almost 2 hours long). I would say Narcarsis has been far too generous in his assessment if anything. Once the other Thief stops the nonsense and more or less runs mirror his mechanics are majorly outclassed by Narcarsis’. His reactions are sluggish by comparison and he is almost always on the defense. Few plays other than those adapted from his opponent like c-bomb porting. He misses many opportunities to interrupt the HiS cast (in my opinion HiS is weaker in Thief duels).

Narcasis also makes some mistakes that I’d imagine he’s aware of, mostly due to being overeager at points (dangerous habit in glass v. glass), but his mechanics, his initiative control and his playing standard are light years ahead. No high level player who’ll watch this video will tell you otherwise. Sorry.

Highlie.7641:

Do you really believe that? I pity you if you do… you do realize they dumbed down the combat for Pvp right?

This silly WvW canard is why you’ll never improve

shimmerless.4560:

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

Lettuce.2945:

shimmerless.4560:

The WvW raging and grudge-holding against Narcarsis (who has always played a more difficult team-oriented game) is embarrassing, and I say this as someone who has played nothing but WvW for the overwhelming majority of my time in GW2. This is coming from people who are almost allergic to playing non-crutch setups and who think that the game works as some kind of duel simulator when you aren’t mirroring or at least running meta specs. “Build wars”? The entire game (and especially your made-up version of it) is build wars, funny how you people never seem to have issues when it’s in your favour.

Your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Maybe you should learn to read before going on a nonsense rant like you just did? Grow up. Re read the entire thread then re read what you just said and you’ll see how way off the point you just were.

Just in case you are too much of a simpleton to figure it out, they mirror dueled. No build wars going on here, bud.

Mbelch.9028:

Anyways, addressing the “lost all the duels” yes, but really is that an accomplishment for you? Beating a valk d/d ele with P/D? I could easily switch to D/F and win, but then you could switch to D/P and just survive.
You’re playing build wars two here, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes reading comprehension is so hard, honey. Then again I suppose my mind would be just as addled were I still a Wubwub hero.

The thread is titled Caed v. Kronos duels. I could care less about the last couple minutes of the video. So, learn to read again. Stay in the ballpark. No need to jettison yourself to space instead.

Quite.

On that note I actually watched some parts of the video (apologies but it does clock at almost 2 hours long). I would say Narcarsis has been far too generous in his assessment if anything. Once the other Thief stops the nonsense and more or less runs mirror his mechanics are majorly outclassed by Narcarsis’. His reactions are sluggish by comparison and he is almost always on the defense. Few plays other than those adapted from his opponent like c-bomb porting. He misses many opportunities to interrupt the HiS cast (in my opinion HiS is weaker in Thief duels).

Narcasis also makes some mistakes that I’d imagine he’s aware of, mostly due to being overeager at points (dangerous habit in glass v. glass), but his mechanics, his initiative control and his playing standard are light years ahead. No high level player who’ll watch this video will tell you otherwise. Sorry.

And you are high level? I’m sure if you dueled 90% of our guild, you would get wiped on the floor.

Edit: Actually whispered him after adding him to monitor his movements. He wasn’t afk but he didn’t reply to my challenge. Typical.

The bets are on! We shall now witness shimmerless playing a…wait…what’s this…sword/sword+staff mesmer?

One sec as I just laugh at the salt. Gj caed, I’m amused.

Dood I love salt.

Narcarsis.5739:

I find other traits more appealing and I dislike the minor. Auto stealth gets you killed with reveal as much as it saves you, the proc is inconsistent.

Yeah there about plenty of threads complaining about it. Personally I’ve never had much trouble with it but yes I would still love to see change for it.