Guild Wars 2

As i see over 9 threads of kids crying for nerfs on thieves and you deleting any other nerf _______ class threads it’s a joke. Being forces to re roll because people don’t stop nerfing your class isn’t my idea of a fun mmo so i want to you make my warrior lvl 80 and delete my thief because it will soon be useless. Its funny when you cant post your ideas bout problems with another class with out it being deleted or getting called a troll, but you can make 9 threads on thief nurfs? When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

catnipkiller.5429:

When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

That’s a great question.
Why DID they deign to put a rogue class in the game when there has yet to be a single mmo that made them not be OP or worthless?

I made a nerfing thread about warriors. and it was deleted

I wish i could clone myself and go stealth. Or i wish i had a class that could one hit some1 for 24k. But im just a thief so i cant do any of that i just get nerfed.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

catnipkiller.5429:

When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

That’s a great question.
Why DID they deign to put a rogue class in the game when there has yet to be a single mmo that made them not be OP or worthless?

Because mmorpg contains the word roleplaying ,and there is a lot of people who wants to play a role of a rogue/assassin.As for OP/worthless part,it’s a matter of personal opinion and point of view.Some might find them OP, is’s their right to have an opinion.Then they make one,embarrass themselves for a while and go to their main chars….

Yes , the non thief players should get a refund for having to deal with high dps perma stealth enemies in WvWvW. Good idea, thanks,

so you nerf the class because of the servers problem dealing with stealth in wvw? what about mesmers? they stealth aswell. I bet your main is a warrior and your just bad at your class.

ZLE.8293:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

catnipkiller.5429:

When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

That’s a great question.
Why DID they deign to put a rogue class in the game when there has yet to be a single mmo that made them not be OP or worthless?

Because mmorpg contains the word roleplaying ,and there is a lot of people who wants to play a role of a rogue/assassin.As for OP/worthless part,it’s a matter of personal opinion and point of view.Some might find them OP, is’s their right to have an opinion.Then they make one,embarrass themselves for a while and go to their main chars….

And there’s the word “online” in there, which means that there needs to be balance involved as well, and rogue classes are impossible to balance.

catnipkiller.5429:

so you nerf the class because of the servers problem dealing with stealth in wvw? what about mesmers? they stealth aswell. I bet your main is a warrior and your just bad at your class.

If culling adds ~1-1.5s to effective stealth duration then yeah, if you can’t fix the culling, you should do the next best thing and nerf the stealth to get it in line with what it’s supposed to be.
Which shouldn’t even be in the game at all, but as long as it is…
Oh and mesmer doesn’t have even CLOSE to the amount of stealth available to thieves, and they don’t have sneak attacks to take any great advantage of it aside from the confusion.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

ZLE.8293:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

catnipkiller.5429:

When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

That’s a great question.
Why DID they deign to put a rogue class in the game when there has yet to be a single mmo that made them not be OP or worthless?

Because mmorpg contains the word roleplaying ,and there is a lot of people who wants to play a role of a rogue/assassin.As for OP/worthless part,it’s a matter of personal opinion and point of view.Some might find them OP, is’s their right to have an opinion.Then they make one,embarrass themselves for a while and go to their main chars….

And there’s the word “online” in there, which means that there needs to be balance involved as well, and rogue classes are impossible to balance.

So do the next best thing and turn it into a low dps support class? Sounds like a cool game to me.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

catnipkiller.5429:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

ZLE.8293:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

catnipkiller.5429:

When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

That’s a great question.
Why DID they deign to put a rogue class in the game when there has yet to be a single mmo that made them not be OP or worthless?

Because mmorpg contains the word roleplaying ,and there is a lot of people who wants to play a role of a rogue/assassin.As for OP/worthless part,it’s a matter of personal opinion and point of view.Some might find them OP, is’s their right to have an opinion.Then they make one,embarrass themselves for a while and go to their main chars….

And there’s the word “online” in there, which means that there needs to be balance involved as well, and rogue classes are impossible to balance.

So do the next best thing and turn it into a low dps support class? Sounds like a cool game to me.

No, you do the best thing and learn from everyone else’s mistakes and don’t put the class in the game in the first place.

Then give me a refund for my time wasted on a useless class and give me my 80 warrior as 90% of my guild is warriors.

Interesting that I encounter 4 thieves for every warrior in WvWvW. Of course I never see the thieves.

miringains.8653:

I made a nerfing thread about warriors. and it was deleted

funny how they delete them from other class forums, but they let people QQ, literally ALL DAY, about thieves

GG anet GG, at least you’ll have ‘proof’ that everyone hates the thief class right?

catnipkiller.5429:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

catnipkiller.5429:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

ZLE.8293:

gimmethegepgun.1284:

catnipkiller.5429:

When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

That’s a great question.
Why DID they deign to put a rogue class in the game when there has yet to be a single mmo that made them not be OP or worthless?

Because mmorpg contains the word roleplaying ,and there is a lot of people who wants to play a role of a rogue/assassin.As for OP/worthless part,it’s a matter of personal opinion and point of view.Some might find them OP, is’s their right to have an opinion.Then they make one,embarrass themselves for a while and go to their main chars….

And there’s the word “online” in there, which means that there needs to be balance involved as well, and rogue classes are impossible to balance.

So do the next best thing and turn it into a low dps support class? Sounds like a cool game to me.

No, you do the best thing and learn from everyone else’s mistakes and don’t put the class in the game in the first place.

Then give me a refund for my time wasted on a useless class and give me my 80 warrior as 90% of my guild is warriors.

Sounds good.

gimmethegepgun.1284:

If culling adds ~1-1.5s to effective stealth duration then yeah, if you can’t fix the culling, you should do the next best thing and nerf the stealth to get it in line with what it’s supposed to be.

Culling isn’t consistent though, it doesn’t even happen in most sPvP/PvE, and not all the time in WvW. You can’t nerf major profession mechanics all of the time when they’re only affected by bugs that occur a small portion of the time. Furthermore, culling doesn’t function as stealth, it doesn’t confer any of the benefits that stealth confers as far as traits and stealth attacks, it doesn’t even protect from targeting.

Nothing has happened to Thieves yet. A few nerfs to sPvP and a few buffs here and there. Anet is taking it slow and not giving in to mass whining.

catnipkiller.5429:

As i see over 9 threads of kids crying for nerfs on thieves and you deleting any other nerf _______ class threads it’s a joke. Being forces to re roll because people don’t stop nerfing your class isn’t my idea of a fun mmo so i want to you make my warrior lvl 80 and delete my thief because it will soon be useless. Its funny when you cant post your ideas bout problems with another class with out it being deleted or getting called a troll, but you can make 9 threads on thief nurfs? When will anet stop being so blind when it comes to class balance.

Remove the chip from your shoulder, lots of classes have been nerfed, some more heavily than thieves – engineer for instance, which has also had the single biggest nerf in the game, the removal of stability from the juggernaut trait.

rogue classes are impossible to balance in an online setting? That seems true, every time I get onto TF2 the whole team is filled with spies……wait, that’s not true at all.

I can’t say from a PVP standpoint, but in PVE Thief is arguably the worst profession in the entire game. This is coming from a guy who has Necromancer, Engineer, Mesmar, and Guardian too. Any of those classes can stroll through mobs getting mad killing sprees. My Thief can barely handle more than 1 mob at a time, and even then he still does it way less efficiently. I really regret spending so much time leveling my Thief because now I’m going to have to level a new character, and I already have like 6 other video games I got for Christmas that I have to play.

Icarus Pherae.4680:

rogue classes are impossible to balance in an online setting? That seems true, every time I get onto TF2 the whole team is filled with spies……wait, that’s not true at all.

1) Very few FPS players play an FPS to play a melee class.
2) Spy was largely considered the most overpowered class in the entire game for the first 5 years or so of its existence. (Simple Google search can more than confirm this.)
3) Even when Rogues accounted for 90% of the top rankings in Warcraft Arenas, Rogues were still the least played class in the game. OP does not always = popular.

UnicornViolet.3081:

Icarus Pherae.4680:

rogue classes are impossible to balance in an online setting? That seems true, every time I get onto TF2 the whole team is filled with spies……wait, that’s not true at all.

1) Very few FPS players play an FPS to play a melee class.
2) Spy was largely considered the most overpowered class in the entire game for the first 5 years or so of its existence. (Simple Google search can more than confirm this.)
3) Even when Rogues accounted for 90% of the top rankings in Warcraft Arenas, Rogues were still the least played class in the game. OP does not always = popular.

Just because the masses complain about a class being OP it does not mean is a fact :P, sorry I just read and saw how contradictable your post is

It was your choice to roll a thief. If you’ve played MMO’s ever then you know that most of the time they start out super OP and then are worked down to a manageable state. To the people who started in the OP version of the class – they think the class is unplayable however most of the time it has just had the playing field leveled a little bit.

It’s not that the thief is useless or it will ever be useless.

If you are worried that possible balance patch will hurt your effectiveness, than it is probably because you are a bad player who are refusing to get better, knowing you made a thief to abuse its opness and a proper balance is a cataclysm to your eyes.

I see no reason behind a team of guys with 10+ years of experience have a sort of bias toward a specific profession.