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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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Dear Den of Dirty Thieves, (jk, jk)

I wish I’d screen capped this , but last night my combat log showed that I took 2500 from Choking Gas (impact, not poison). The thief I was fighting wasn’t glass, and it was just him vs me in the fight, so no opportunity to get party buffed. I have (maybe) 2500 armor or so.

Looking at the wiki (which appears to be updated since patch), I wouldn’t think the skill would be able to hit that hard. Could this be a bug of some sort, or is it plausible through traits, etc.?

As I said, he definitely wasn’t running glass.

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Posted by: babazhook.6805

babazhook.6805

Dear Den of Dirty Thieves, (jk, jk)

I wish I’d screen capped this , but last night my combat log showed that I took 2500 from Choking Gas (impact, not poison). The thief I was fighting wasn’t glass, and it was just him vs me in the fight, so no opportunity to get party buffed. I have (maybe) 2500 armor or so.

Looking at the wiki (which appears to be updated since patch), I wouldn’t think the skill would be able to hit that hard. Could this be a bug of some sort, or is it plausible through traits, etc.?

As I said, he definitely wasn’t running glass.

The upfront damage of the skill was increased by 200 percent as per patch notes. If the thief in question had might stacks , or you had vulnerability on it well in the realm of possibility. The skill can also CRIT and a thief upfront with traits can close to double damage without even gettig a crit,

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Posted by: Sly.9518

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It was a viper thief so Glass otherwise 1.2k becaus pulm base damage

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Posted by: Sly.9518

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The fact that you took damage and substantial amount of hits from Pulm is very telling justsaying

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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The fact that you took damage and substantial amount of hits from Pulm is very telling justsaying

It was one hit attached to Choking Gas in the combat log, it wasn’t poison damage, and he wasn’t glass.

I’m not familiar enough with thief to know what sort of might and vuln stacking are possible, but he was lazily shooting his shortbow (so not a lot of might on crit), and I think he was playing d/p otherwise.

I don’t think he was glass because I was doing about half to 2/3 the damage to him that I’d do to a normal glass thief, and I didn’t have weakness (no glancing, etc).

Anyway, I’m not complaining about the skill or anything. It just seemed the combat log number doesn’t match the damage listed in the wiki. Sometimes extra (or less) damage gets done by one bug or another. Thought this might be one of those times.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

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The fact that you took damage and substantial amount of hits from Pulm is very telling justsaying

It was one hit attached to Choking Gas in the combat log, it wasn’t poison damage, and he wasn’t glass.

I’m not familiar enough with thief to know what sort of might and vuln stacking are possible, but he was lazily shooting his shortbow (so not a lot of might on crit), and I think he was playing d/p otherwise.

I don’t think he was glass because I was doing about half to 2/3 the damage to him that I’d do to a normal glass thief, and I didn’t have weakness (no glancing, etc).

Anyway, I’m not complaining about the skill or anything. It just seemed the combat log number doesn’t match the damage listed in the wiki.

To get over 1.2k PI they have to be running power, quite a bit with out Crit damage, and outside of P/P and Signets Might doesn’t exit on Thieves, and not so much Vuln either if all he did was shoot SB so either he was running Glass (Carrion is glass btw) or you at lying one of the two.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

Choppy.4183

To get over 1.2k PI they have to be running power, quite a bit with out Crit damage, and outside of P/P and Signets Might doesn’t exit on Thieves, and not so much Vuln either if all he did was shoot SB so either he was running Glass (Carrion is glass btw) or you at lying one of the two.

…or a bug. Why the hell would I lie in a post that’s not even calling for a nerf, but asking people who’d know whether or not something was normal?

And, no, he wasn’t running carrion because he wasn’t doing much in the way of condi damage.

Also, why are you focused on PI? The question’s about Choking Gas.

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Posted by: Sly.9518

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To get over 1.2k PI they have to be running power, quite a bit with out Crit damage, and outside of P/P and Signets Might doesn’t exit on Thieves, and not so much Vuln either if all he did was shoot SB so either he was running Glass (Carrion is glass btw) or you at lying one of the two.

…or a bug. Why the hell would I lie in a post that’s not even calling for a nerf, but asking people who’d know whether or not something was normal?

And, no, he wasn’t running carrion because he wasn’t doing much in the way of condi damage.

Also, why are you focused on PI? The question’s about Choking Gas.

Sorry the whole “Impact” term made me think Pulmonary Impact. Could be due to me being a few in….

The initial At 2.5k isn’t bad especially if he’s not running Condi gear so that was most likely a crit ona power build , not a glass power build but a normal one

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

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Could have just been playing marauder/valkyrie. It crits enough, is far from glassy, and has quite good damage from the ferocity and power it stacks.

At 2500 armor, my build without might which runs 20k hp will crit between 2.5-4k on CG depending on opposing traits/defenses/etc.

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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Cool. Thanks for that.

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Posted by: martin.1653

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Oh no, could it be that a slow moving projectile at less-than-desirable-range does 2.5k crit damage?
WHO BROKE THIS GAME?

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Posted by: Choppy.4183

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Oh no, could it be that a slow moving projectile at less-than-desirable-range does 2.5k crit damage?
WHO BROKE THIS GAME?

Who broke your reading comprehension?

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