Guild Wars 2

Has anyone been able to not get the revealed debuff when blasting a smoke field and hitting an enemy with it?

I think this has killed me a few times, because I’m unexpectedly not in stealth and also have revealed on me, so I can’t then use another stealth option like HS, HiS, or Blinding Tuft.

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

Karolis.4261:

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

I don’t know where your expectation is derived from, but mine comes from Heartseeker and Smoke fields.

Shockwave.1230:

Karolis.4261:

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

I don’t know where your expectation is derived from, but mine comes from Heartseeker and Smoke fields.

IF you hit someone with heartseeker WHILE in stealth you will be revealed

Shemsu.8721:

Shockwave.1230:

Karolis.4261:

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

I don’t know where your expectation is derived from, but mine comes from Heartseeker and Smoke fields.

IF you hit someone with heartseeker WHILE in stealth you will be revealed

If you use heartseeker while in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth.

If you use cluster bomb in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth, but immediately become revealed.

Wat — but what if you heartseeker in a smoke field, but then switch to a short bow and cluster bomb someone…

With the heartseeker combo, the damage applies before the end of the combo. With BPS, the damage seems to hit after the combo. Don’t know why, but thats just how it works. When people used to use unsuspecting foe with hammers, the +50% would always trigger before the damage hit when using earthshaker. Could just be coded in different orders so the effects of blast finishers apply before damage, and the effects of leap finishers apply after damage.

Maugetarr.6823:

With the heartseeker combo, the damage applies before the end of the combo. With BPS, the damage seems to hit after the combo. Don’t know why, but thats just how it works. When people used to use unsuspecting foe with hammers, the +50% would always trigger before the damage hit when using earthshaker. Could just be coded in different orders so the effects of blast finishers apply before damage, and the effects of leap finishers apply after damage.

Was about to say the same so thanks there, random person from the internet. But OP got me thinking on sth. Blasting into fire field gives 3 stacks of might and deals some dmg to nearby enemies. Therefore using Blinding Powder inside that fire field with an enemy nearby should reveal you, shouldn’kitten Has anyone tested it?

EDIT: seriously anet? “shouldn ’ t it” into kitten.

randomly.6395:

Shemsu.8721:

Shockwave.1230:

Karolis.4261:

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

I don’t know where your expectation is derived from, but mine comes from Heartseeker and Smoke fields.

IF you hit someone with heartseeker WHILE in stealth you will be revealed

If you use heartseeker while in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth.

If you use cluster bomb in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth, but immediately become revealed.

If you use heartseeker in a smokefield while ALREADY stealthed, you will be revealed

Wait wait… so you’re saying if I damage anyone in stealth, Ill be revealed?

Yeah, man, they really nailed us with that one, must have been some sneaky ninja nerf.

kitten every build i know is ruined now!

#MissingTheDaysOfSR15SecondsOfUnrevealedBackstabs

Shemsu.8721:

randomly.6395:

Shemsu.8721:

Shockwave.1230:

Karolis.4261:

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

I don’t know where your expectation is derived from, but mine comes from Heartseeker and Smoke fields.

IF you hit someone with heartseeker WHILE in stealth you will be revealed

If you use heartseeker while in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth.

If you use cluster bomb in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth, but immediately become revealed.

If you use heartseeker in a smokefield while ALREADY stealthed, you will be revealed

What?

Shemsu.8721:

randomly.6395:

Shemsu.8721:

Shockwave.1230:

Karolis.4261:

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

I don’t know where your expectation is derived from, but mine comes from Heartseeker and Smoke fields.

IF you hit someone with heartseeker WHILE in stealth you will be revealed

If you use heartseeker while in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth.

If you use cluster bomb in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth, but immediately become revealed.

If you use heartseeker in a smokefield while ALREADY stealthed, you will be revealed

Well, duh.

The difference is that the initial Heartseeker in a smoke field can give you stealth even when doing damage. This is not so with blast finishers that deal damage.

Probably coded this way very specifically, as others have said, for other blast combos.

randomly.6395:

Shemsu.8721:

randomly.6395:

Shemsu.8721:

Shockwave.1230:

Karolis.4261:

Let me explain you some basic stealth mechanics. If you do direct damage to someone while you are in stealth – you get revealed. That’s exactly what you are describing here.

I don’t know where your expectation is derived from, but mine comes from Heartseeker and Smoke fields.

IF you hit someone with heartseeker WHILE in stealth you will be revealed

If you use heartseeker while in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth.

If you use cluster bomb in a smoke field and hit an enemy, you will gain stealth, but immediately become revealed.

If you use heartseeker in a smokefield while ALREADY stealthed, you will be revealed

Well, duh.

The difference is that the initial Heartseeker in a smoke field can give you stealth even when doing damage. This is not so with blast finishers that deal damage.

Probably coded this way very specifically, as others have said, for other blast combos.

Heartseeker is the only exception as far as I know, where you can do damage and gain stealth at the same time (aside from cloak and dagger which does both damage + stealth). Engineer jumpshot (leap finisher) through smoke field (e.g. bomb/turret smoke field) grants stealth and instantly reveals the engineer if it hits anyone during the leap, unlike Heartseeker. Any blast finisher on any class will reveal the caster.