Guild Wars 2

And what I mean by that is condi management outside of shadow arts needs a boost. Pain Response and sword #2 (Infiltrator’s Strike -> Infiltrator’s Return) is just too costly and are just not effective enough. Many thieves not playing heavy stealth are forced into lyssa runes for this reason. Many builds are getting eaten by passive application give us stronger passive removal to compensate so e aren’t forced into stealth.

Condition removal is quite costly on all classes.
besides on warriors who can remove 4 conditions per ~8 seconds, also granted full immunity to them, and in WvW “immunity” to movement impairing conditions.

But I do agree there need to be more ways, one thing I would love myself is to transfer 1 condition to a random target within an area you hit with Infiltrators Arrow.

Hide In Shadows should remove torment.

Pain Response only trigger when afflicted by any of the conditions when below 75%, also remove torment and 25 sec cd.

Getting 5 stacks of torment on you as a thief is too lethal atm.

Pain Response should be updated to clear Torment. It’s sheer laziness they haven’t done that yet.

In my opinion, Pain Response should clear all damaging conditions and Fleet of Foot should clear all movement-restricting conditions. That would bring those of us with Acrobatics-based builds slightly more in-line with the stealth builds.