Guild Wars 2

Hey guys, I’m looking to try a new build that’s not mainly power build. I was thinking of a condi dire build or a celestial hybrid build. Which one would be more effective WvW? Can you guys give me some example builds as well? Much appreciated.

since P/D already specs heavily into SA, i prefer to go either carrion or dire (carrion on PvP, dire on WvW). celestial has diminishing returns for condi damage, i feel, and since the power aspect of P/D is more of a side thing than actually half your damage, you might as well trade some physical stats for extra condi damage and defense.

Would perplexity runes be the best for dire?

LegionLord.5392:

Would perplexity runes be the best for dire?

It’s a 50% 50% split between perplexity and krait (45% bleeding duration), it depends if you take daze or torment on stealing,

Lachanche.6859:

LegionLord.5392:

Would perplexity runes be the best for dire?

It’s a 50% 50% split between perplexity and krait (45% bleeding duration), it depends if you take daze or torment on stealing,

it’s *confusion on stealing.

i personally think krait works better. perplexity still requires reliable interrupts, which in turn requires something like pistol offhand, or scorpion wire.

Interrupt on steal with perplexity runes,agony sigils if you worry about bleed.

From what I tested before, full dire worked better for me than hybrid builds. Don’t forget direct dmg on pistol aa is just meh, you won’t make much use of power. For precision, there are some nice sigils that proc on crits but I think the added benefit is just outweighed by the survivability you lose when not using full dire. Some other classes need precision for more dmg in condi builds, thief is not one of them.

For runes, krait if you want something cheap and still effective. Perplexity runes require a bit of skill to actually interrupt the opponent but in return they offer better burst than krait. You interrupt even with basilik, you don’t necessarily need sleight of hand. Even with so many condi builds in roaming nowadays, the most challenging to fight are the interrupt builds with perplex runes and I’ve met very few people who can play them well. Scorp wire is quite nice for these builds.

I would never go hybrit with P/D its just not this good, you give up defensiv stats and gain allmost no DMG.
I have both Gear sets Perplexty and Krait Dire, and its not this mutch diffrence.
I like Krait alot because of the extra bleeds, it makes your DMG way more consistent because of this i mostly play with this Rune.
Perplexty however has a nice condi Burst, some classes/builds can deal with this while other cant, 13 confusion is nice sometimes.

For Weapons i run p/d + d/d because d/d 3+doom is soo nice for doing some pve DMG or finish some ppl that you have downed (sometimes a stealth stomp will not work), i did kill 3 ppl at once with this skill. And 2 is fine for mobility reasons so i dont rly need a short bow.

Celestial p/d 6/2/0/0/6 (slight of hand) works fine in spvp and you’re not a trolly kitten like you’d be in a shadow arts full condi build. I assume the same is true in wvw. Glad I could help….

Hype.8032:

Celestial p/d 6/2/0/0/6 (slight of hand) works fine in spvp and you’re not a trolly kitten like you’d be in a shadow arts full condi build. I assume the same is true in wvw. Glad I could help….

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Hype.8032:

Celestial p/d 6/2/0/0/6 (slight of hand) works fine in spvp and you’re not a trolly kitten like you’d be in a shadow arts full condi build. I assume the same is true in wvw. Glad I could help….

I wish all the thief’s I faced in spvp ran that build.