Guild Wars 2

Are there any out there and what would be the appropriate runes for a condition build? Duration or straight conditions?

Bleed build vs poison build. which one is better suited for

• Spvp
• Pve
• WvW

Condition builds need to utilize all conditions, otherwise a single cleanse and all your stacks are gone. Therefore a just bleed build or a just poison build isnt viable.

@OP

In wvw, yes.

In pvp, no.

Wvw allows stats that are availibile in pve, which includes dire. While this isn’t exclusive to thief, it is what makes their condi build viable.

In s/tpvp there is no condi build for thief, its way to easy to recover from their DoT and it’s just too difficult to manage. It’s not even a skill based thing, its a duration/damage thing, and trying to maintain any pressure with bleeds and torment is just not possible.

P/d (the only viable condi build) has bleeds, vulnerability, torment, and immobilize all on its own. Cripple from caltrops (utility/trait) and poison from 5 in DA if they want. It’s not necessarily needing ALL conditions to be viable, its more just the pressure you can apply and bleeds on thief wear off really quick in pvp making it hard to get those high stacks. Without high stacks bleeds aren’t that effective.

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@OP

In wvw, yes.

In pvp, no.

Wvw allows stats that are availibile in pve, which includes dire. While this isn’t exclusive to thief, it is what makes their condi build viable.

In s/tpvp there is no condi build for thief, its way to easy to recover from their DoT and it’s just too difficult to manage. It’s not even a skill based thing, its a duration/damage thing, and trying to maintain any pressure with bleeds and torment is just not possible.

P/d (the only viable condi build) has bleeds, vulnerability, torment, and immobilize all on its own. Cripple from caltrops (utility/trait) and poison from 5 in DA if they want. It’s not necessarily needing ALL conditions to be viable, its more just the pressure you can apply and bleeds on thief wear off really quick in pvp making it hard to get those high stacks. Without high stacks bleeds aren’t that effective.

Gotcha thanks a bunch.

Right now my skills are black powder, Skale Venom and Shadow Refuge. However should I change Skale Venom back to Caltrops? or just leave it a lone?

Caltrops are awesome for PvE, but more difficult to land in WvW. If you play it right then you should have them because the bleed stacks are insane when timed right, especially against groups! If you’re fighting 1v1-2 then go with venom since it’s easier to land and give a nice burst if damage.