Guild Wars 2

Rome.3192:

I don’t see what the point of this whole argument is. Sind has always said staff will work in ranked and 5v5s, just not at the highest level. That’s his opinion. If you want to play staff, play staff. If you can play staff at WTS level, that’s awesome. Bring more diversity to thief. More power to you. But for now, the way it stands, nobody at the top tier plays staff. Go ahead and prove Sind wrong. I’m sure he won’t hate you for it.
Staff thief plays a completely different role and offers nothing that can’t be done by other classes, and that’s my personal opinion. You could disagree, stick with it, and maybe someday represent all staff thieves at the WTS.

Yup, right now it looks like D/P is best, maybe someone can make great use of stuff at high level play, but I doubt it. Everyone is welcome to teach me wrong.

To add to my other post, I even forgot the S/P meta. But I think most people forget that easily :P

Coronit.9432:

Rome.3192:

I don’t see what the point of this whole argument is. Sind has always said staff will work in ranked and 5v5s, just not at the highest level. That’s his opinion. If you want to play staff, play staff. If you can play staff at WTS level, that’s awesome. Bring more diversity to thief. More power to you. But for now, the way it stands, nobody at the top tier plays staff. Go ahead and prove Sind wrong. I’m sure he won’t hate you for it.
Staff thief plays a completely different role and offers nothing that can’t be done by other classes, and that’s my personal opinion. You could disagree, stick with it, and maybe someday represent all staff thieves at the WTS.

Yup, right now it looks like D/P is best, maybe someone can make great use of stuff at high level play, but I doubt it. Everyone is welcome to teach me wrong.

To add to my other post, I even forgot the S/P meta. But I think most people forget that easily :P

I main S/P and even I forgot it was meta until you mentioned it haha

Staff would work fine, just depends on your team comp and how you run the map.

Narcarsis.5739:

Staff would work fine, just depends on your team comp and how you run the map.

exactly! many ppl have this misconception that staff thief can not duel like dp cant. Actually it can duel everything and win.

Urejt.5648:

Narcarsis.5739:

Staff would work fine, just depends on your team comp and how you run the map.

exactly! many ppl have this misconception that staff thief can not duel like dp cant. Actually it can duel everything and win.

Nobody is saying Staff can’t duel or win those duels, if anything people have said that staff is an excellent dueling weapon, at least from what I can gather from reading the thread.

What they have been saying though, is that Staff doesn’t bring the same amount of utility as D/P does, and that is true, no matter how you bend or break the arguments in staff’s favor.

I highly disagree that " (…) Staff doesn’t bring the same amount of utility as D/P does(…)". First of all staff has different dmg mitigation utility than stealth, which is evade. Evade is much more reliable and 100% dmg mitigaiton. What is more evade on staff is directly connected with dmg- staff 3 and 5.
Secondly staff also has blind skill – staff 4, which is Aoe blind and medium dmg. Very good skill in duels. Can be used to blind and finish enemies so it can take same role as dp 5 for finihsing.
Thirdly, there is staff 2, which can be used as best dps skill with conjunciton of steal, or as a very good aoe weakness applier in teamfight. There is no worse enemy than weakness to power classes.
I agree that staff doesnt have interrupt, but staff was designed as aoe dps tool, so naturly it is different.

So here we see that staff strength is powerfull dueling capability due to evades and teamfight nukes due to best dps in game. On the other hand we have dp thief which can not duel many classes, but has very good +1 capability.

It is argued what is best weapon for highest lvl. There is a trend in pro scene, which almost leaves no space for +1 strat, exept some thief exeptions. One has to ask this question: is it worth it to run rare +1 thief strat, or play steady and skillfull bruiser strat.