Current thief build. Need opinions.

Current thief build. Need opinions.

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Posted by: Kakashi.9271

Kakashi.9271

This is my current gear loadout for WvWvW and PvE. I do not do much sPvP as of right now so I have not found a good setup with the different jewels and amulets. Basically what I want is some of your opinions on whether or not I should switch out some vitality for other stats. For instance, the 5% precision converted into vitality from the critical strikes tree.

All 6 pieces of armor are exotic grade Valkyrie with ruby orbs.
My D/D set is Nullification and Force. My SB is superior fire.
My back piece is Ascended Sights Be True which has pwr, toughness, and crit dmg %.
I am running 2 beryl earrings along with a ruby amulet and ruby ring.
My second ring is Red Ring of Death which is Ascended grade pwr, pres, and crit dmg.

My trait tree is 0/30/20/10/10
Practiced Tolerance – Side Strike – Hidden Killer
Master of Deception – Hidden Thief
Power of Inertia
Thrill of the Crime

Lastly, without any buffs I sit at 3018 attack, 38% crit chance, 107% crit dmg, 2235 armor, and 15,965 vitality.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

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Posted by: frans.8092

frans.8092

I feel Crit chance should be upped. This should be possible, I am pretty sure I’ve seen 40% at some time on my char without really trying.

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Posted by: Kakashi.9271

Kakashi.9271

Well from stealth i have a 100% crit chance on next hit. also a 7% crit chance from side strike. When i use steal it also increases by 20%.

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Posted by: Setus.4731

Setus.4731

What utility skills do you use? This advice is mainly for WvWvW.

Practiced Tolerance and Side Strike are sub par major traits. Furious Retaliation and either one of the signet traits if you use signets or Critical Haste would be better (although some people don’t like how haste can mess up heart seeker range).

Power of Inertia loses it’s value without vigor or Feline Grace (Acrobatics 15 point minor trait). Assuming you dodge on cooldown, which is generally a bad idea, you will be getting 1 stack of might every 10 seconds; not worth the points in my opinion.

What is the purpose of going into the Shadow Arts line? With the major traits you have selected, it looks like you are going for burst damage with a steal→stealth→ back stab combo. A better burst would be putting those 20 points into the Deadly Arts line to pick up mug (averages 4k crits) and dagger training. You can make up the lack of stealth on steal by beginning to cast Cloak and Dagger before hand and stealing mid cast because you can cast instant cast spells during the cast time of a non instant cast spell.

Also the nullification sigil is not very useful. Try the air one instead.

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Posted by: frans.8092

frans.8092

Mug, is on a 40 sec cooldown and with a 40% crit I am not convinced it is worth it for a general purpose build.
Shadow Arts provides condition removal, longer stealth, health regen and a number of other survival related treats (and traits). While not immediately useful for the single purpose Mug build, Shadow Arts is a good trait-line for just about every other purpose. Mug on the other hand only gives a 4k hit once a minute (you can’t expect the situation to be suitable the moment it comes of cooldown).

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Posted by: Setus.4731

Setus.4731

How is mug not worth it? I believe Thrill of the Crime is applied before mug damage, so he would have 60% crit chance with fury active.
Shadow Arts will give what you said provided you have the major traits for it; he does not have those traits. Also it seems like he wants to focus on doing damage given his current setup so my suggestions are for a similar purpose build.
Mug is not once a minute and is not a single purpose build. Dropping 10 points for an additional 4k burst is definitely worth it.