D/D vs D/P

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Posted by: Kadin.2356

Kadin.2356

I like playing D/D against all classes except running into another Thief running D/P. Since I actually have to land a CnD to stealth it makes the fight a near instant loss due to blind. Any suggestions against D/P beyond just walking away?

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Posted by: Loki.8793

Loki.8793

I’m assuming you mean you’re playing d/d and you’re fighting against a d/p thief. Play off their predictability and don’t overextend into avoidable blinds.

D/P thieves are extremely predictable; every time they want to enter stealth, they will always do blackpoweder → heartseeker unless you force them to use a utility. So, the best way to counter them is to prevent them from doing a heartseeker. However, you’re a d/d thief, so you don’t have headshot.

90% of the time, the d/p thief will heartseeker to you after he blackpowders. You should time your cloak & dagger for when he heartseekers, so when he leaps to you, you hit him without having to aim. If you have the blind on stealth trait (which you should), then you can pretty much avoid the backstab. You won’t have to worry about them perma stealthing because lol nerf.

Standing outside of the blinding field is another option, though without a reliable way to interrupt their heartseeker, you’re only real bet is to burst them down before they can burst you down.

tl;dr – Prevent their stealth combos, use their predictability to guarantee your own stealths, and burst them down when they leave stealth. After tomorrow’s patch they won’t be able to stay in stealth longer than you without drastically reducing their resources.

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Posted by: Kadin.2356

Kadin.2356

You should time your cloak & dagger for when he heartseekers, so when he leaps to you, you hit him without having to aim.

So stand just outside the blind field and CnD when he jumps in? That could work. If I stand in the field obviously it won’t land b/c of blind.

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Posted by: Loki.8793

Loki.8793

So stand just outside the blind field and CnD when he jumps in? That could work. If I stand in the field obviously it won’t land b/c of blind.

Technically he’ll jump outside of it towards you. The Blackpowder→heartseeker combo is powerful because not only does it give stealth, it closes the gap and deals damage if it hits. However, you can use that gap closer to your advantage because you know he’ll go towards you, so when you see him use the animation, hit cloak and dagger because he’ll most likely be right in front of you. You’ll still take damage, but a 1-2k heartseeker is better than a 4-6k backstab. You should also be able to get a backstab off of him if you pay attention.

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Posted by: samanosuke.4508

samanosuke.4508

In theory that would work, but it’s not as simple as that because BP will also blind once from range. You will have to get rid of the blindness and then risk actually connecting c&d.

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Posted by: Azraelle.1683

Azraelle.1683

Also: bp+hs+steal=900+ range bs.

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Posted by: Domey.9804

Domey.9804

Steal+ cnd, then backstab. When the d/p stealths you apply bv and perform a death blossom. Then cnd again, backstab, hs, hs. Heard this rota from somebody in here. Works against Most d/p players.
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