D/P Condition PvE Suggestions?

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Posted by: RegnorVex.4071

RegnorVex.4071

Just returned to play after a very long absence and find my 80Thief outfitted in Carrion exotics with a lot of condition/survivability gear and enhancement support. Very little gold, so not anxious to replace gear just now.

I was using D/D previously but looking over the forums I see that D/P seems to be more favored, at least for PvP. Even if not the case for PvE, I’m looking to change up and get familiar with D/P as something new. I duo with my wife’s GS and Hammer Guardian set up, completing maps and looking to start dungeon diving.

Any recommendations on a good build to use for dungeons with this setup?

Thanks.

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Posted by: RegnorVex.4071

RegnorVex.4071

An update. I’ve reset my build as follows. Seeking critiques and advice.

D/P SB
30/0/20/0/20

Potent Poison
Combined Training
Dagger Training

Infusion of Shadows
Patience

Flanking Strikes
Initial Strike

No author’s pride, looking for honest feedback. Thanks, guys.

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Posted by: Black Cat.1024

Black Cat.1024

Hey WB!
It looks like you’ve built a pretty hybrid build to be honest.
It has a lot of damage based, with some stealth with some condi which is cool if you like it.
But if you’re looking for a more condi type build I would switch the D/P into P/D first of all. Main hand pistol gives you much more conditions than a dagger, and generally a D/P build is a more of Stealth/Survivability/WvW build.
As thieves, most of our conditions come from"Venoms" – the utility skills. So I would play that angle too. how about something like this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAqYVlYmCNXay9E/5EhnivKWtHy0mxsTBXvKA
I didn’t fill in any gear, only traits and weapon setup, but check it out

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Posted by: RegnorVex.4071

RegnorVex.4071

Hey Black Cat, thanks!

Most of the threads I’ve read are so focused on PvP I come away with a lot of PvP build thoughts.

Are venoms too much of a 1-trick pony? Are there dungeon bosses that are immune to poisons? I’ll give your build a try out in the open world and see how it works out. Looks interesting. How do you open up, what kind of rotation? Do you set up 1 as AA?

I continue to welcome other thoughts, too.

Thanks!

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Posted by: Black Cat.1024

Black Cat.1024

To be honest I have no idea how this build would fare in dungeons as most of my experience is in WvW. And personally I never AA, because you never know when that cast time and after cast time will be your downfall.
As for rotation I would start out with Spider Venom (5 poison attacks) – Shadow Strike (first poison and torment) – Steal (I don’t know if this will also apply Spider venom but will apply 10 sec poison because of “serpents touch”) – Cloak and Dagger (second poison) – (you’re in stealth now) – Sneak Attack (pistol stealth attack) and 3 of the 5 shots will poison as well as bleed) and now you’re left with around 11 initiative which is amazing. This is because you have 16 initiative traited, and get 3 on steal. Anyway this rotation looks like a typical “Start of encounter” scenario. Don’t forget that you also have caltrops on dodge will will bleed your opponent.

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Posted by: Reallysorry.6230

Reallysorry.6230

Hey & WB just my advice as someone who plays thief in wvw & pve p/d is kinda flavour of the month ATM in WvW I mean you still see a lot of d/p but I think thieves are enjoying the fact we can use different builds ATM but as for PVE I’d really recommend starting to grab some straight up power items and drop the condition dmg, the dmg is quite slow in pve especially when your fighting something tough like a champion where as with d/p and dmg gear you can blind anyone with a circle around you using blinding powder then aa a bit then heart seeker for stealth to backstab (go for a mix of berserkers, knight & valk depending on how much dmg you want it to take) obviously cost can be an issue but farming these new events is a pretty effective gold mine ATM or just pick up rares until you can change to exotics, it give you idea of the style and the much faster dmg you can do plus if you have a good guild you’ll get runs in most dungeons regardless. I’m no pro or anything I’ve just tried most builds for thief and I genuinely wish condition was more useful in pve but its just not as a thief at least. Hope this helps mate and if you want any more advice feel free to add me in game and ill help as much as I can.