DD SB Thief sPvP/WvW

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Posted by: Professor Sensei.2941

Professor Sensei.2941

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoYVn8lCVOhlOBGOB8PhFaCbOD2BLhbVghzeSLAMhiAA-TpBEwAPOEAM3fgwJAAxDAAwRAIbZAA

So I’ve been running this a lot lately and been getting great results. Not much has changed for me since launch but this build has next to unlimited dodges to make up for the lack of vitality or toughness. The faster you are with the stun-breakers and landing Cloak and Dagger the more you will notice just how untouchable you can be.

Cloak and Dagger:
This skill needs way more love. Other than the quick access to stealth this skill provides good damage and a moderate vulnerability debuff on your target. This is the bread and butter of the D/D thief. The five initiative cost is nothing in comparison to what this skill brings and how you can use it. Not to mention if you’re going to miss the hit or pop someones aegis you can always just dodge cancel the skill.

Basic open:
Dagger 5, Steal (Infiltrators or Shadow-step works as well), Dagger 1
This combo is the keystone to what makes Dagger Dagger thief amazing. You can use it to deal insane damage or a quick stealth escape from a overwhelming target. How this combo is applied will be what sets a good D/D thief apart. If you’re feeling extra frisky you can even chain all three of your jumps to cross huge areas instantly for those greed hunts.

Finishing Targets:
Dagger 5, Press F or your finish key. If you’re worried about getting interrupted in any form or fashion use shadow-step during the channel right until the last moment. If you can’t get safely in range to finish with melee swap to short bow and pressure with Cluster Bombs and Chocking Gas. You almost always want to finish with your short bow out anyways to grab stacks of blood lust.

If there is more interest ill post a video of it in action however I feel like the general setup is pretty much in line with what we’ve seen so far just with the adaptation of HoT.

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Posted by: EazyPanda.6419

EazyPanda.6419

After suppressing my urge to state all the reasons why D/P is better in every way for PvP/WvW, I don’t see why D/D can’t work if you are great with positioning (and because of Dash), and if you are not fighting against a D/P thief. =)

I’d recommend Impact Strike over Basilisk Venom though. Impact strike can be used as instant interupt, not just a finishing skill. Not to mention it will benefit from Brawler’s Tenacity.

I’ll also take Improv over executioner, but then that’s personal choice.

I can see this build being effective at bursting down people in WvW who are running zerg builds, walking on their way to join a commander, or under-leveled poeple in EotM. However, you might encounter probelms with any other class who is specced for 1v1s.

To be honest, if you are running full Zerk, you are going to get one-shotted often.
I would not recommend this for PvP. You will die within 10 seconds. Having 11k hp in a bunker/condi/AOE meta is not a great idea.

You will die in one burst from a fellow staff or D/P thief. Heck you’ll die from a single Vault.
You will die in 1/2 a shot from ‘kill-shot’ eles.
You will die from a single DH True Shot.
You will die from a Rev’s Hammer 2, which he can use every 2 seconds
You will melt from any condi builds.

Despite running a full evade build with a staff, I’ll still get hit eventually. Evades are simply not enough. =/

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Posted by: SoulSin.5682

SoulSin.5682

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoYVn8lCdmidPBmOBkmiFYCbOEWCbhaJgAQGY7CscGUA-TpxBABvXGAgjAgQ7PgxhAohHAwDnAAA

My version.

I believe i could get to Saphire~Ruby with it (currently emerald) but I am not even planning to use thief of Saphire or higher due to prejudice.

Advantages:
- Quick burst. C&D is less predicable then D/P base rotation and it’s faster. Works great on current meta where people are too distracted hitting your bunker.
- Paralyze on demand. Slow on Demand.
- Is totally capable of killing reapers (little hard), scrappers and power revs. And can gank others non-bunker builds
- Movement wise its the fastestes class in the game. You can pretty much go from middle to far faster than a mesmer can active their Portal skill to follow you.

Disavantage:
- Unless you are really good at it, you can’t 1×1 other Thiefs with D/D.
- Can’t kill any of the 4 current metabuilds. You may as well stay away spamming poison until your team do it for you.
- If killing a DH with D/P is hard, with D/D is downright impossible.
- Movement and quick kills are fun but useless in the current bunker meta. Unless for some miracle you are capable of killing the guy at home alone, you are cursed to +1 fights since you cant get freecaps.

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Posted by: Kaishina.6584

Kaishina.6584

Im sorry but this does not work against decent players anymore

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Posted by: deda.8302

deda.8302

Sadly its true ,but its still fun in unranked .

This is my version of it :
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoYVl0MhSnY5Tw3Jw/ELIFFXDEALwc7X/7v3LEEbAA-TZRBABN/AAA4IAYfZANOFA+v/AA

this should work with staff and zerk amulet also
,since evade is only defense then i went with viper amulet for max dmg.
Get in do pole dance ,stealth, get out ,regen ini – health,some cluster bombs ,poison field, pole dance again…
Uncatchable works realy nice with BD or LT( i choose BD just for tempest fights)

Utilities strictly for def purposess

Do not get over confident it is very important to refresh fight every few rotations and 1v1 you have good chance to win.
In team fights just do not try to stomp,lol

Do not ever fight scrapers it is imposible to win vs hammer,honestly engi is worst nightmare for thief right now:(
Tempast is fairly ok if you mangae to avoid shocking aura

Others classes are quite managble , and frankly its just luck since there is so much insta cc.

No stability, no protection , and no resistance >no pasaran

Also playing this i couldnt escape from the temptation to compare

cluster bomb vs coalescens of ruin ,its way less dmg on shorter range

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Posted by: Theandil.6045

Theandil.6045

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