The only way to make non-thief players happy would be to remove all stealth from the profession and make it so we could only wield a wet pancake as a weapon.
Have there been any words from devs about how they feel about the blinding powder stealth granted by heartseeker with this weapon combo ? Just curious.
I personally feel it’s way too strong, and was wondering if it’ll be nerfed anytime soon.
Revealed is going to be bumped to 3s but changed so that you get revealed every time you exit stealth, which I believe is going to weaken the combo a little. Personally, I don’t mind that much; I never abused it quite as much as other people did.
Have there been any words from devs about how they feel about the blinding powder stealth granted by heartseeker with this weapon combo ? Just curious.
I personally feel it’s way too strong, and was wondering if it’ll be nerfed anytime soon.
Revealed is going to be bumped to 3s but changed so that you get revealed every time you exit stealth, which I believe is going to weaken the combo a little. Personally, I don’t mind that much; I never abused it quite as much as other people did.
Meh not weakening by much at all. When I’m using Dagger/pistol, I tend to stay in the fight much longer than dagger/dagger without having to stealth much if only to gain some might and put out a back stab. Plus, if I wanted to stay stealth I just keep doing the ole black powder + two HS in and out, repeat when necessary and I’m almost guaranteed to stay in stealth indefinitely
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Have there been any words from devs about how they feel about the blinding powder stealth granted by heartseeker with this weapon combo ? Just curious.
I personally feel it’s way too strong, and was wondering if it’ll be nerfed anytime soon.
Revealed is going to be bumped to 3s but changed so that you get revealed every time you exit stealth, which I believe is going to weaken the combo a little. Personally, I don’t mind that much; I never abused it quite as much as other people did.
Meh not weakening by much at all. When I’m using Dagger/pistol, I tend to stay in the fight much longer than dagger/dagger without having to stealth much if only to gain some might and put out a back stab. Plus, if I wanted to stay stealth I just keep doing the ole black powder + two HS in and out, repeat when necessary and I’m almost guaranteed to stay in stealth indefinitely
I don’t use the combo myself that often, only for defensive purposes really, or if I already had the field thrown down because I was fighting a melee character. However, saying that it provides “stealth indefinitely” is flat-out untrue; the combo hardly gives you stealth for a few seconds in normal fighting situations, and it costs a lot of initiative.
Why is it in every kittening forum the best spec for pvp = OP. No matter how hard it is to pull off how much you give up. Best spec = OP. You could run DP for 4 months and one day because I gets popular its now OP. I think the thing that kitten es me off the most is that no matter what spec I play on another toon I know the counter because I play the spec. The part that gets to me is the whining on top of whining on top of whining begging for nerfs.
For kitten sake learn to play better. Why does the game keep having to get dummed down for bad players? How many people could possibly suck? I don’t ask this sarcastically or with anger I just don’t get.
I play 4 classes at 80 love em all. However thief and ele (I do not play full bunker) I really hate. You never feel like the nerfs are done. You never feel safe. I know meta is evolving and changes with time but i feel sharing good idea trying unpopular builds might be one of the biggest mistakes we make. 3 months ago DP wasn’t even on the radar and I was playing it. 4 months Ago S/D was considered bad but now the port is OP. It never ends.
Everything has a counter but no one can just force you to be good at pvp.
The fact is it is never all going to be equal.
What the hell do we do? As much as I love my thief I sometimes cringe playing it because i know it is always no matter the build on the chopping block.
I know it’s a rant I am sorry I do not usually rant but kitten.
Kor The Cold Heart War Wrekkes-Engineer Kore Rok Thief-Asraithe-Ele
Why is it in every kittening forum the best spec for pvp = OP. No matter how hard it is to pull off how much you give up. Best spec = OP. You could run DP for 4 months and one day because I gets popular its now OP. I think the thing that kitten es me off the most is that no matter what spec I play on another toon I know the counter because I play the spec. The part that gets to me is the whining on top of whining on top of whining begging for nerfs.
For kitten sake learn to play better. Why does the game keep having to get dummed down for bad players? How many people could possibly suck? I don’t ask this sarcastically or with anger I just don’t get.
I play 4 classes at 80 love em all. However thief and ele (I do not play full bunker) I really hate. You never feel like the nerfs are done. You never feel safe. I know meta is evolving and changes with time but i feel sharing good idea trying unpopular builds might be one of the biggest mistakes we make. 3 months ago DP wasn’t even on the radar and I was playing it. 4 months Ago S/D was considered bad but now the port is OP. It never ends.
Everything has a counter but no one can just force you to be good at pvp.
The fact is it is never all going to be equal.
What the hell do we do? As much as I love my thief I sometimes cringe playing it because i know it is always no matter the build on the chopping block.
I know it’s a rant I am sorry I do not usually rant but kitten.
Gotta agree with you on this one. I started playing D/P when they finally fixed the rooting on shadow shot. Loved it. When they changed revealed to 4 seconds, D/P became the most fluid feeling build, and thus became the new meta. Its not that it was suddenly OP, but people realized that it was good because offhand dagger suddenly became underwhelming. I’m hoping that they (ANet) leave it alone and see how the meta changes after the revealed debuff gets reverted.
The only way to make non-thief players happy would be to remove all stealth from the profession and make it so we could only wield a wet pancake as a weapon.
Have you ever costume-brawled someone using the cook outfit??
Wet pancake would be far too OP.
Because you can’t scout and relay information on a ledge overlooking a node without being in stealth. Funny thing is when I relay info in wvw I’m pretty sure I’m not in stealth….
spam hs against a wall to get 4, do it again to get 10s of stealth that you can type w/e you wanted in chat.
difference here is no other class or build can reliably relay that info without being detected.
knowing enemy movement is one thing, enemy doesn’t know you were there would be another.
So you disregard the fact that the heal is practically identical in terms of healing when used with the right traits, ignore the offensive capabilities of the heal and say to turn around with withdraw. Even with the 180 degree rotate, using withdraw as a gap closer is worse than just running towards them. You lose ground. Who uses HiS under revealed?
so you disregarded that difference in heal, and is incapable of using withdraw as a closer, and all others must go by that standard? pffft
: Funny thing is that I use HS through BP without having to be in the circle,
already lost there….
you were in the circle, had 1s on its duration, no revealed, with inititatives standing by, yet you chose to HiS instead of pressing 2.
people that make such choices tend to HiS under revealed from last refuge, we already had multiple threads about that
