Guild Wars 2

So…I don’t want to throw more fuel onto the flames (and I’m not sure if this was already mentioned so sorry if it was), but I’ve mostly stood on the sidelines for whether the Daredevil’s unique dodges being Grandmaster traits was ok.

For many of us, getting access to these dodges will not be a problem because we have a good pool of hero points. For the new player, they won’t even be able to experience these new dodges until after they’ve accumulated enough points. When they unlock the daredevil tree, they will see that they have one extra endurance bar. They will look at all of the other players who have just unlocked the first trait of their E-spec and see that they are playing with their new shiny toys.

From a new player’s perspective, this is terrible. The issue here isn’t even whether or not the dodges are deserving of GM trait status, but rather accessibility.

Yep. The accessibility issue is one of many reasons they should be linked to the first minor, not the GM traits. I feel bad for any legitimately new Thief player who will have to unlock a spec this mediocre piece by piece.

I feel bad for any new Thief player period. :/

Hopefully they figure out the scam faster than the three years it took us.

Amante.8109:

Hopefully they figure out the scam faster than the three years it took us.

^

Well, if anything this is prep’ing them for the years (of disappointment) to come…

El Psy Congroo.7965:

I feel bad for any new Thief player period. :/

+1

Amante.8109:

Hopefully they figure out the scam faster than the three years it took us.

Well hey, that’s not completely fair. It was only really since June 23rd that thief got really bad. Before that, we were still able to fight people.

blarghhrrkblah.3412:

Well hey, that’s not completely fair. It was only really since June 23rd that thief got really bad. Before that, we were still able to fight people.

Hence why it took many of us so long to get the picture. Things were decent before, which masked the inattention and lack of passion for Thief that, honestly, has been there from the very beginning. Now it’s absurdly obvious because they aren’t even trying to hide it anymore.

Amante.8109:

blarghhrrkblah.3412:

Well hey, that’s not completely fair. It was only really since June 23rd that thief got really bad. Before that, we were still able to fight people.

Hence why it took many of us so long to get the picture. Things were decent before, which masked the inattention and lack of passion for Thief that, honestly, has been there from the very beginning. Now it’s absurdly obvious because they aren’t even trying to hide it anymore.

That’s a pretty steep accusation. Sure we’re not treated the best, but look at necro and ranger. Not to mention, everyone’s general attitude toward Karl isn’t going to encourage him to communicate with us when what’s most likely to happen is you guys flaming him. The forums are supposed to be a place for discussion, not flaming whoever is responsible for whatever. Invariably there will be decisions made that will make people unhappy. Invariably, there will be no decisions made at all. It’s hardly fair to say that that is exclusively the fault of our dev. You don’t want to deal with it anymore, then that’s fine, but yelling about “he who knows his name” or whoever isn’t going to bring about any positive change.

I’m human and I get frustrated like anyone else. There’s plenty of other posts (and threads) where I deliver completely constructive, on point feedback

And as fun as it might not be to deal with, this level of pent up bitterness and frustration from people is kind of to be expected. It should not be used by development as an excuse to remain silent on the forums (that’s a lot of what caused said feelings in the first place), especially when there’s still so much constructive feedback to be found in places like the BWE3 thread.

Amante.8109:

I’m human and I get frustrated like anyone else. There’s plenty of other posts (and threads) where I deliver completely constructive, on point feedback

And as fun as it might not be to deal with, this level of pent up bitterness and frustration from people is kind of to be expected. It should not be used by development as an excuse to remain silent on the forums (that’s a lot of what caused said feelings in the first place), especially when there’s still so much constructive feedback to be found in places like the BWE3 thread.

Fair point, but let’s just keep our rants contained in dedicated rant threads, rather than have it bleed into feedback threads.

It would be fine if they just plain heavily moderated the most egregious offenders and actually communicated with us.

However, in order to moderate the thief forums someone would have to actually read them in the first place

PopeUrban.2578:

It would be fine if they just plain heavily moderated the most egregious offenders and actually communicated with us.

However, in order to moderate the thief forums someone would have to actually read them in the first place

Well, as someone mentioned before, they clearly read the forums because revenant exists xD

blarghhrrkblah.3412:

PopeUrban.2578:

It would be fine if they just plain heavily moderated the most egregious offenders and actually communicated with us.

However, in order to moderate the thief forums someone would have to actually read them in the first place

Well, as someone mentioned before, they clearly read the forums because revenant exists xD

^ That.
It proves they read the Thief forums and they hate us.