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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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Check out that combat log. Best not to get hit by one

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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Also. I want your opinions! Should It be possible to down someone else using one skill? I know I am super glassy d/p but still I would like the input. Should this be a thing?

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Posted by: Mystogan.4157

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people are going to spam that its an easy dodge-able move. which i agree it is. they jstu need to take it out and replace it with something useful for wars. as long as i have a dodge or some int i will never get hit by that poop

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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You couldn’t use your #4 headshot to interrupt a 2 sec channel that the warrior has to sit completely still for? Or use your #3 to close the gap and blind him, this missing killshot?


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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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It was just interesting to me. I really cant get much glassier and I’m sure the warrior was too…. but.. the highest I honestly think I’ve ever hit with a back stab (so glassy I just 2-4k auto on 3rd hit) is about 11k on an upleveled ele. Even that however requires a stealth and the hit… my point being I at least hit 2 buttons. No matter how easy it is to dodge(which it is don’t get me wrong)…that killshot connects sometimes. It just seems I don’t know…. like its mindless play. You do have to worry about the cast time tho… or do you? Part of me wonders how glassy of a warrior you have to be to get those numbers. I have to stay on the edge of my seat (which I love) playing burst thief. Kinda doubt that warrior can go down as fast as me if they mess up.

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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You couldn’t use your #4 headshot to interrupt a 2 sec channel that the warrior has to sit completely still for? Or use your #3 to close the gap and blind him, this missing killshot?

Absolutely! Couldn’t agree more. That is exactly what I usually do. This particular fight I was outmanned so I was turning tail and headed away. Didn’t see that rifle haha. I had one guy down in a 1v2with almost full health at the end of it. I was pretty proud of myself. It took quite a few more button presses than 1 to do that. Then that happens and I thought oh well that’s life. Just really surprised me when I checked out that combat log.

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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I like you. Very positive

Thank you I appreciate that!

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Posted by: Ghostwolf.9863

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It’s easily dodgeable, unless the warrior forces you to dodge using frenzy>bc>hb combo followed by him swapping to rifle and volley which also hits quite hard, then you pop HiS or some other stealth and he hits you with killshot while you’re stealthed.

However, stealth + their stolen projectile reflect is quite nice

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Posted by: frans.8092

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You couldn’t use your #4 headshot to interrupt a 2 sec channel that the warrior has to sit completely still for? Or use your #3 to close the gap and blind him, this missing killshot?

Uhm, it has a 1500 range, almost twice that of your pistol.

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Posted by: Jayden Ennok.3687

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Pls no nerf to rifle warrs Reduced dmg would only result in less rofls when warrs shot into my dagger storm.

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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Come to think of it there is no telling how many times I have probably reflected them without even realizing it! Hilarious

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Posted by: Sandrox.9524

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Well,I roamed with that kind of warrior,when he says “im ready” I come to him and use blinding powder to stealth him and then he uses it:P

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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^ This type of build is actually really fun with a thief, just have them drop a shadow refuge on you. Ninja sniper mode! If you wanted you could even time backstab and killshot to hit at the same time


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Posted by: vincecontix.1264

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Op you have to taken into accout the frequency and appilcation of both the thief and wars burst. Kill shot is fine.

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Posted by: Lamuness.3570

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I want a 15k backstab

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Posted by: Littlefeather.8623

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Kill shot warriors, and Teef’s big difference…You take a Teef, you can solo roam no probrem, you take a Kill Shot warrior, sowwie no solo roam for you.

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Posted by: Tachii.3506

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well with guard stacks the 200vit should give you more than 16hp even full glass, no?

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Posted by: Vavume.8065

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well with guard stacks the 200vit should give you more than 16hp even full glass, no?

Nope, full glass with guard stacks is around 13k at reset, and 14k something towards the end of the week.

I want a 15k backstab

Since the nerf to crit damage the biggest Ive hit was a 16k backstab on a level 80 ele, that was in a 1 v 1 with no outside buffs or debuffs.

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

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Also. I want your opinions! Should It be possible to down someone else using one skill? I know I am super glassy d/p but still I would like the input. Should this be a thing?

Originally I would have said no. In fact GW2 is the only MMO where you can be literally “one-hit” and it use to frustrate me a lot too.

But these builds sacrifice a lot to deal such damage and are themselves “one-hit” victims. Also after the Ferocity nerf these have become increasingly rare.

So while overall I still don’t think it’s good game-design to have “one-shots”, in the larger scale of things I think it’s ok. In fact, given the current meta, I think a more bursty game-play would do it some good.

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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Also. I want your opinions! Should It be possible to down someone else using one skill? I know I am super glassy d/p but still I would like the input. Should this be a thing?

Originally I would have said no. In fact GW2 is the only MMO where you can be literally “one-hit”.

But these builds sacrifice a lot to deal such damage and are themselves “one-hit” victims. Also after the Ferocity nerf this has become increasingly rare.

So while overall I still don’t think it’s good game-design to have “one-shots”, in the larger scale of things I think it’s ok.

You know I think I agree. At first glance I think I don’t like it, but after some thought I think it is a good thing. It is interesting and can open up new ideas/new ways to play! It’s kinda awesome. Its like someone can be playing a (call of duty reference incoming) hardcore mode while someone else is playing the opposite (tanky) and I love it. Makes the GW2 combat system really unique.

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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Wow! Didn’t expect this thread to blow up as much as it did everyone! thank you so much for your insightful comments. If you couldn’t tell I really enjoy theory on pvp gameplay.

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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Well,I roamed with that kind of warrior,when he says “im ready” I come to him and use blinding powder to stealth him and then he uses it:P

I Have to try this with the guildies soon! This sounds amazing haha

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

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I think it’s fine that it hit that hard, it is named “Kill Shot” for a reason. It is the attack in the game with the highest damage modifier, so it should hit harder than backstab. To make up for it they have to use all their adrenaline, it has a 2 second cast time and is very easy to spot and counter. Reflect that attack with the stolen skill from the warrior and then proceed to backstab him, instakill :p

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