Guild Wars 2

With recent patch changes, the skill [Destroy shadow trap] from [Shadow Pursuit] trap which is a STUN-BREAKER.. has been made channeling or has 1.5 secs cooldown. This is defeating the ‘stun break’ function .. as most CC are of 1 sec, it makes this stun break useless as it takes more than the stun time to break out of it. In tests I could not break out of the stun using this skill before all the damage was unloaded by enemy tester.

I totally understand that for balance issues, you dont want thieves to teleport out of battle to far off distance, but can you fix it in someway without taking away the stun break ability of it or shift the stun break ability to some other skill ?

I tested it on wvw and spvp, please do test it and opine. Tx.

The Dark Path needs a Darker Art..

This is less of balance and more of a thief mindset .. as a thief I am not supposed to start 1 v 1 .. rather, I wait for opportunity .. when 2 are dueling, thats when you GO IN, do massive damage, GET THE KILL OR GET THE HECK OUT .. .. he helps if he wishes to help .. only if there is a booty to be found .. a thief usually runs SOLO .. a thief should NEVER blow a skill to save someone other than himself … a thief .. should lurk in the shadows .. at all times .. even in the cities .. a thief must be subtle .. a thief must make his presence known by his deeds .. which needs a good stun break !

P.S. In other words, gimmi back mah freaking stun break ! xD

I’m okay with small channeling time when trap was not triggered by anybody (it can be interrupted), but please remove 2 minute timer on the trap and set it to inifnity like before. Currently, thief can’t win solo against anybody competitive except other thieves and glass cannon eles (and this is only while wielding mighty S/D weapon set), so I think it would be fair.

Dagins.5163:

I’m okay with small channeling time when trap was not triggered by anybody (it can be interrupted), but please remove 2 minute timer on the trap and set it to inifnity like before. Currently, thief can’t win solo against anybody competitive except other thieves and glass cannon eles (and this is only while wielding mighty S/D weapon set), so I think it would be fair.

Then you’re probably play it wrong. Tho I do agree that making even 1 mistake on thief is punished by death while other classess don’t have that problem at all (balance my kitten.

Destroy Shadow Trap: returning part removed, stun break kept and give stability for 1 second

problem solved

DanH.5879:

Destroy Shadow Trap: returning part removed, stun break kept and give stability for 1 second

problem solved

I wouldn´t like the return part removed, you lose a lot of utility that way, like fast traveling to help in another cap point or escaping.

I think it would be better if they make the stun break activate while casting (so the stunbreak part is instant cast as it was before) but the teleport part activates only after finishing the cast. If you dodge or cancel the casting or if you get interrupted(after the stun break activates), the skill gets on CD but with a reduced CD , like 8 to 12 seconds less.

Probably they want to Shadow Persuit to be the main reason to take the trap instead of Destroy Shadow Trap, the stun brake part of that part of the skill still is fine. Im not going to take that trap anymore if you ask me (of course you don´t), traps are the most unreliable skills of the thieves utilities, what make it poorly atractive to most builts.

I switched out shadow trap too after using it a few days. It just doesn’t work with my playing style anymore… Might consider using it again in the future but for now I’ll be testing other unpopular traits

Shadow Trap just seems to be a badly designed skill that is staggering from one broken state to another. If it ever becomes fit for purpose it would become abusive at the same time so I’ve no idea why the designers are persisting with it. The shadowstep design is too similar and simply better.

Thieves would be better suited with the stun breaker put onto a signet instead, allowing a rework of traps to make them good utilities in their own right.

Stooperdale.3560:

Shadow Trap just seems to be a badly designed skill that is staggering from one broken state to another. If it ever becomes fit for purpose it would become abusive at the same time so I’ve no idea why the designers are persisting with it. The shadowstep design is too similar and simply better.

Thieves would be better suited with the stun breaker put onto a signet instead, allowing a rework of traps to make them good utilities in their own right.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Infiltrator%27s_Signet

kitten , I only looked on the wiki skills overview and it didn’t list the stun break. It makes you wonder why we have the stun break on the trap at all then.

You don’t have to finish the skill. If you don’t want to shadowstep away, or don’t have time to finish the casting, you can activate it, then cancel it immediately. It will still break stuns. It’s saved my bacon a lot of times, but has also killed me if I use it too late and/or don’t cancel.

It just has to be used preemptively if you want to escape using it.

I like it because it gives a lot of options for a single skill. A stunbreak and an escape, or just a stunbreak and cancel if you don’t have time, or a stunbreak,stealth,and some boons if you put it in the battlefield instead of putting it to the side.

It’s a bit more powerful than you might think.