Guild Wars 2

- Nerf stealth and dodge
- Add access to quickness and swiftness with low cooldown (current CD is set to 3yrs, too long)

We don’t need nerfs. We need to not be outdated. That means (probably) buffs.

Are you a Dev? Else who is “we”?

So you want to nerf our survivability to give us more quickness. We already have enough quickness for a single fight, the CD is just high. We already have perma swiftness and are the most mobile class with ports etc. We don’t have enough health or other forms of damage mitigation to justify a stealth/dodge nerf. What is motivating this request?

I smell a gunslinger

RedSpectrum.1975:

I smell a gunslinger

Quickness isn’t even that great for P/P. You just run out of initiative faster and make it easier to dodge a whole unload.

Serious Thought.5394:

We don’t need nerfs. We need to not be outdated. That means (probably) buffs.

But all the “buffs” are just dressed up nerf’s.

so confused.

You’re right, just nerf thief. Take my toothpick (signature for context).

Zodryn.4216:

RedSpectrum.1975:

I smell a gunslinger

Quickness isn’t even that great for P/P. You just run out of initiative faster and make it easier to dodge a whole unload.

I highly doubt anyone is dodging a whole unload with quickness unless the person about to unloads tells them to dodge. In some regards the quickness would give you a good shot at hitting them with more bullets as opposed to a normal unload since they’d get hit with more shots before they realize they are getting hit

I wonder how long it will take for someone to realize the purpose of this thread…hmm.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

I wonder how long it will take for someone to realize the purpose of this thread…hmm.

to troll?

Sir Vincent III.1286:

I wonder how long it will take for someone to realize the purpose of this thread…hmm.

You think you’re so kittening clever don’t you? I had you figured from the start:
Nerfing stealth and evades would render the thief class useless officially, no amount of good play would save us. Simultaneously giving us access to quickness and swiftness would give a facade of a buff making players bring their thieves into PvP. They’d be lambs to the slaughter. After the copious amounts of threads complaining about it Anet would eventually delete the class entirely and remove all traces of it. With your main obstacle out of the way since DD condi is making a return, you’d get in your Revenant you have stashed away since they’d no doubt give them someone good in place of a pulsing reveal since the one class they did have that could abuse it is gone. Upon receiving these buffs you’d then go into copious amounts of pvp to finally get that Champion Ritualist title you’ve so coveted, except Dragonhunters would be a main threat. But by so cleverly deleting the thief, people would direct most attention to the broken nature of the DH, causing them to be nerfed to oblivion. As people abscond to other classes that aren’t thief and guardian, the Revenant will naturally have a good shot at them making them rage and quit the game. As more and more people leave you’ll gather their belongings to hoard as much gold as possible using it to raise the prices of everything on the trading post. With the price of gems now at an all time high Anet will lose out on supporters causing them to have to pull the plug. In the desolate wasteland that is now GW2 you’ll then be free to reshape the world in your image.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

I wonder how long it will take for someone to realize the purpose of this thread…hmm.

You think you’re so kittening clever don’t you? I had you figured from the start:
Merging stealth and evades would render the thief class useless officially, no amount of good play would save us. Simultaneously giving us access to quickness and swiftness would give a facade of a buff making players bring their thieves into PvP. They’d be lambs to the slaughter. After the copious amounts of threads complaining about it Anet would eventually delete the class entirely and remove all traces of it. With your main obstacle out of the way since DD condi is making a return, you’d get in your Revenant you have stashed away since they’d no doubt give them someone good in place of a pulsing reveal since the one class they did have that could abuse it is gone. Upon receiving these buffs you’d then go into copious amounts of pvp to finally get that Champion Ritualist title you’ve so coveted, expect Dragonhunters would be a main threat. But by so cleverly deleting the thief, people would direct most attention to the broken nature of the DH, causing them to be nerfed to oblivion. As people abscond to other classes that aren’t thief and guardian, the Revenant will naturally have a good shot at them making them rage and quit the game. As more and more people leave you’ll gather their belongings to hoard as much gold as possible using it to raise the prices of everything on the trading post. With the price of gems now at an all time high Anet will lose out on supporters causing them to have to pull the plug. In the desolate wasteland that is now GW2 you’ll then be free to reshape the world in your image.

Oh man, lol, this is getting good.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

I wonder how long it will take for someone to realize the purpose of this thread…hmm.

You think you’re so kittening clever don’t you? I had you figured from the start:
Merging stealth and evades would render the thief class useless officially, no amount of good play would save us. Simultaneously giving us access to quickness and swiftness would give a facade of a buff making players bring their thieves into PvP. They’d be lambs to the slaughter. After the copious amounts of threads complaining about it Anet would eventually delete the class entirely and remove all traces of it. With your main obstacle out of the way since DD condi is making a return, you’d get in your Revenant you have stashed away since they’d no doubt give them someone good in place of a pulsing reveal since the one class they did have that could abuse it is gone. Upon receiving these buffs you’d then go into copious amounts of pvp to finally get that Champion Ritualist title you’ve so coveted, expect Dragonhunters would be a main threat. But by so cleverly deleting the thief, people would direct most attention to the broken nature of the DH, causing them to be nerfed to oblivion. As people abscond to other classes that aren’t thief and guardian, the Revenant will naturally have a good shot at them making them rage and quit the game. As more and more people leave you’ll gather their belongings to hoard as much gold as possible using it to raise the prices of everything on the trading post. With the price of gems now at an all time high Anet will lose out on supporters causing them to have to pull the plug. In the desolate wasteland that is now GW2 you’ll then be free to reshape the world in your image.

I think this is the best post I’ve seen in quite some time. I’m glad to have been able to read this before I bid farewell to Tyria. Farewell sir Thief, you were my one and only. I will miss you dearly.

for the people too short to reach the joke:

Mobility is obviously the best stat, and we cant have it and survivability

so why not just go full mobility and be the best decapper

with 900range ports

I hope someone figure this out soon because it’s going in a whole different direction.

I guess some explanation is in order.

The last time quickness and swiftness were used was on the initial release of GW2. The changes to the game were quick and the information was delivered swiftly. Then both buff goes to a 3yr CD and the next time we’ve seen both buffs used again is prior to the release of HoT — that CD is just way too long.

When issues come up, stealth and dodge are used. Stealth needs to be nerfed since it can be extended for a very long time and dodges are simply happening too often. The Dev needs to improve this to enhance the Dev-to-Player relation. Shorter stealth and less dodging.

That is all.

I think you don’t play this class at all.

Dragonhunter in disguise maybe.

Trolls will be trolls!

No wonder Devs do not read that forum.

@Sir Vincent III: I laughed.

swinsk.6410:

Trolls will be trolls!

How is this a troll when the title is very clear that it’s “Dev balance request” and not “Thief balance request”?

Sir Vincent III.1286:

swinsk.6410:

Trolls will be trolls!

How is this a troll when the title is very clear that it’s “Dev balance request” and not “Thief balance request”?

~gets hit by joke smack in the face ~

…

I see…

So, it was I that was too short to reach the joke, all along.

~stares down at hands, stoically ~

Sir Vincent III.1286:

swinsk.6410:

Trolls will be trolls!

How is this a troll when the title is very clear that it’s “Dev balance request” and not “Thief balance request”?

Uhh you’re good, I gotta give you that.

As an Asura, I’m inclined to take things literally. Coupled with my diminutive stature, many things go over my head…