Dragon hunter traps counter play?

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Posted by: that baby stealing dingo.7216

that baby stealing dingo.7216

Short of equipping pistols to get some ranged pressure on the DH, does anyone have any counterplay ideas? I hate to equip pistols as my second weapon set just to counter one class’s silly traps.

Tried to get some ranged pressure today with short bow by getting up on a ledge and cluster bombing, but the DPS just isn’t there with cluster bomb against a single target.

Can’t get close to the DH if he’s standing on his trap. Once I cross over into the trap, there appears to be literally nothing I can do to avoid damage, in spite of dodges. And the trap appears to proc multiple times, defeating my aegis as well.

There must be a way to counter play these traps, but what is it?

I have a sword, a dagger, and an estimated life span of 2.47 seconds.

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Posted by: merrydamn.9423

merrydamn.9423

p/p spam 3 other than that you have no chance

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Posted by: Dakarius.3284

Dakarius.3284

turn 180 degrees and walk away.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

p/p spam 3 other than that you have no chance

You do know DH has projectile destruction just from LB and f3 right?

If you engage in pure range combat, he’d out-sustain you for sure and kill you with his LB instead since he can negates your projectiles while you can’t do so.

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Posted by: merrydamn.9423

merrydamn.9423

p/p spam 3 other than that you have no chance

You do know DH has projectile destruction just from LB and f3 right?

If you engage in pure range combat, he’d out-sustain you for sure and kill you with his LB instead since he can negates your projectiles while you can’t do so.

It doesn’t matter if he can destroy projectiles wait until after he uses that projectile destroying skill then you shoot him with p/p. I use deadly arts + trickery, so I will also occasionally steal to him (boon steal + poison + weakness + healing for me) and then immediately dodge to waste his traps. You can also use dagger storm and smokescreen to block his projectiles. Further more place down a blackpowder under your feet before using p/p 3 so that you can constantly shoot blinding bullets.

This won’t always work, but it is the most effective way to beat a dragonhunter guardian. Another method is to kill him with condi, but I doubt you will be able to do any dmg with his removals. Don’t bother using melee, you just get killed instantly :P

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Posted by: that baby stealing dingo.7216

that baby stealing dingo.7216

turn 180 degrees and walk away.

Yeah this is the conclusion I came to after trying to move him off his spot twice with no success whatsoever.

I have a sword, a dagger, and an estimated life span of 2.47 seconds.

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Posted by: that baby stealing dingo.7216

that baby stealing dingo.7216

p/p spam 3 other than that you have no chance

You do know DH has projectile destruction just from LB and f3 right?

If you engage in pure range combat, he’d out-sustain you for sure and kill you with his LB instead since he can negates your projectiles while you can’t do so.

It doesn’t matter if he can destroy projectiles wait until after he uses that projectile destroying skill then you shoot him with p/p. I use deadly arts + trickery, so I will also occasionally steal to him (boon steal + poison + weakness + healing for me) and then immediately dodge to waste his traps. You can also use dagger storm and smokescreen to block his projectiles. Further more place down a blackpowder under your feet before using p/p 3 so that you can constantly shoot blinding bullets.

This won’t always work, but it is the most effective way to beat a dragonhunter guardian. Another method is to kill him with condi, but I doubt you will be able to do any dmg with his removals. Don’t bother using melee, you just get killed instantly :P

I will try shadow stepping in and then dodging/shadow stepping out again immediately to see if that wastes their traps. So far no luck with that but maybe I’m just not being fast enough with the dodges.

At some point I’ll equip pistols in my second weapon set to see if that makes it simpler. I won’t be running pistols long term on my main, but I could see rolling up a new P/P thief since I’ve been wanting to try that anyway.

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Posted by: Simeonus.9237

Simeonus.9237

It’s more than hard to outplay DH as Thief, unless you play DD and you can kill him just with dodges(happened to me kitten load of times rofl). Traps are simply too strong vs squishy classes but DH can be killed with good range DPS or conditions.

Traps haven’t got ICD so even if you trigger them and dodge out he will be able to drop more. DH is great to defend points right now ;3

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

guys its easy combo

BP +bound thans sneak to perma blind him while his hp drops down to 25% than he go defense you go stealth and sneak attack again with unload again

but the mean time the yhave the contest

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Posted by: merrydamn.9423

merrydamn.9423

guys its easy combo

BP +bound thans sneak to perma blind him while his hp drops down to 25% than he go defense you go stealth and sneak attack again with unload again

but the mean time the yhave the contest

Blackpowder->bound->stealth->?????? ->permablind (idk how you get this) -> ?? -> his health drops to 25% miraculously

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Posted by: Shadowstep.6049

Shadowstep.6049

turn 180 degrees and walk away.

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

BlaqueFyre.5678

Shadowstep, shadow recall, dodge.. then engage.. or just leave… I find it funny to blow their traps then just stealth away

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Posted by: Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

U kinda cannot counter them with anything elsse then pistols really. Espically the daze and dragons maw which makes escaping those traps one heck of a chore.

sure u can use shadowstep, or shadow refuge, evade and other movement skills. But you’d be unnesisarily blowing through your evades. And even then they still have thier 8k true shot longbow. And if they are Medi and run the longsword. U can still be burst down. You gotta kill them in less then 25 secs really.

It’s not impossible to do so without guns but, using guns is the easiest method imo.

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Posted by: meepeY.2867

meepeY.2867

The animation of him placing the trap is very obvious.

A large pillar of blue light spirals around him in a " ~ " fashion.

Keep your eyes out for that if they pre-emptively place them pre-fight.

If you’re playing sPvp and a DH is bunkering a point, then you’re pretty dumb if you don’t think there’s traps already placed.

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Keep him blinded at all times if possible. DH’s are pretty immobile apart from their F2 ability so they’ll struggle to keep up if they’re using GS or Hammer.

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Posted by: Mefiq.7039

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If hes dumbhunter he will stay in traps like moron. Try running around and spamming clusters on him. Remember to weakness combo him before engage!

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Posted by: Zero Day.2594

Zero Day.2594

turn 180 degrees and walk away.

And re-roll a dragon hunter or a rev. Then turn another 180 degrees and get back in the fight.

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Posted by: merrydamn.9423

merrydamn.9423

turn 180 degrees and walk away.

And re-roll a dragon hunter or a rev. Then turn another 180 degrees and get back in the fight.

Reroll to dragon hunter, rev, druid, reaper, tempest: now your chances of winning just increased tremondously

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

Kolly.9872

there’s no way for a thief to beat the current meta DH trap build. A good thief can survive and not die and even keep fighting for several minutes, but if the DH is not a completely brainless player, he won’t ever die.

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Posted by: messiah.1908

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there’s no way for a thief to beat the current meta DH trap build. A good thief can survive and not die and even keep fighting for several minutes, but if the DH is not a completely brainless player, he won’t ever die.

bad thing is that you can say it for engi, ele,ranger,necro,warrior

we cant kill them fast enough like we used to and even if we can help comes ….