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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

… we went to the warrior forum and complained about easily counterable things with the same false accusations everyones using. And then back up our words with crappy video montages of warriors 1-shotting bads and afk people.

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Posted by: Mek.2947

Mek.2947

huh?

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Posted by: Walker.3056

Walker.3056

I see what you did there

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Posted by: Maugetarr.6823

Maugetarr.6823

The rest of the community is already on that. Something like the first 5 threads were some form of nerf warrior last time I checked.

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

Kolly.9872

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

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Posted by: The Game Slayer.7632

The Game Slayer.7632

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

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Posted by: Walker.3056

Walker.3056

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

He does 1k+/s perma HP regen while still criting over 4k pretty op thats why i enjoy playing it sometimes not to mention the stuns ohh the stuns <3

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Posted by: Bastien.1645

Bastien.1645

I don’t even understand Anets direction on this, Warriors in Guild Wars while Axe and Shield was very popular it was literally only because of Eviscerate, Hammer Warriors were always extremely popular throughout the whole course of the game, the difference is, in Guild Wars it took time to chain stuns, you’d have to build adrenaline which you couldn’t do if you were being kited or hexed or if your attacks weren’t hitting for whatever reason. It seems like in this game though they were like, kitten it, let’s give them 3-4 Stuns/Knockdowns that they can chain and are only limited by short cooldowns.

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

Kolly.9872

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

if by false accusations you mean accurate accusations then you’d be right.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Deathspike.1870

Deathspike.1870

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

I think that most of the thief community has moved on to other professions, and almost everyone (me included) has a warrior to test it and see what it does. It destroys, and it makes me feel a little like the Hulk (… Hulk, smash). I use the epic hulk smash edition warrior (in lack of a better name).

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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

I’d just be happier if there was something that they had to coordinate to get that regen. But alas, it is all passive and better than some active heals…

Not to mention I find it weird that endure pain doesn’t prevent point capture and burst skills don’t use up your adrenaline if you’re bad enough to miss with them…

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Posted by: Ghostwolf.9863

Ghostwolf.9863

I’d just be happier if there was something that they had to coordinate to get that regen. But alas, it is all passive and better than some active heals…

Not to mention I find it weird that endure pain doesn’t prevent point capture and burst skills don’t use up your adrenaline if you’re bad enough to miss with them…

^

or in spirit watch while holding the orb, use adrenaline to gain distance with hammer, endure pain or shield block to gain invulnerability, np.

Press steal or get stealth triggered and you drop the orb on the ground..

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Posted by: Maugetarr.6823

Maugetarr.6823

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

Am I doing this right? Thats an average of 42 minutes a day on the warrior since the game came out. They’re a little over the top right now, but as thief has been my main since day 1 I know what happens to classes when people cry OP loud enough and long enough warranted or not, which is why I’m hesitant to make such assertions.

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Posted by: Keiel.7489

Keiel.7489

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

If he has 200+ wins on his warrior in tPvP does it make his argument much stronger than yours?

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

Kolly.9872

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

If he has 200+ wins on his warrior in tPvP does it make his argument much stronger than yours?

in that case we can start a discussion on a solid base, cos both of us can bring valid points in the discussion based on the real experience, but since he doesn’t have any tPvP experience while I have on many different classes and still he is calling me “noob” not the opposite, well yes my point is more valid than its. I can compare thief, Necro, Ranger, Guardian gameplay to warrior and I can say Warrior is OP compared to these classes.
I never said I am pro and never called other “noobs”, actually I even admitted I am noob compared to more experienced players, what I’m saying is that tPvP experience matters a lot. But usually the less experienced players are the ones that fill their arguments with trash talking.

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Posted by: Hype.8032

Hype.8032

I figure the huge crying masses are doing enough to get warrior nerfed that I don’t need to add my input in very often.

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Posted by: The Game Slayer.7632

The Game Slayer.7632

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

If he has 200+ wins on his warrior in tPvP does it make his argument much stronger than yours?

in that case we can start a discussion on a solid base, cos both of us can bring valid points in the discussion based on the real experience, but since he doesn’t have any tPvP experience while I have on many different classes and still he is calling me “noob” not the opposite, well yes my point is more valid than its. I can compare thief, Necro, Ranger, Guardian gameplay to warrior and I can say Warrior is OP compared to these classes.
I never said I am pro and never called other “noobs”, actually I even admitted I am noob compared to more experienced players, what I’m saying is that tPvP experience matters a lot. But usually the less experienced players are the ones that fill their arguments with trash talking.

Ah. but the entire basis of this thread is what Zacharry(op) had posted. I was simply showing you the other side. Now you see. I hate thieves, but hey thats me and Ill get over it. Throwing the L2P argument is by its fundamentals simply discrediting the other players experience in the game. I literally wreck warriors, I don’t see how they’re a problem. But yet you do? Maybe its a L2P issue? See? Back to square one. You see how all these people defend thieves by saying ‘L2P’, and, that’s an okay argument to use apparently. Its in your signature. And you cannot deny it. But wait until someone tells you to ‘L2P’ against another profession that you clearly think is overpowered and you go crazy I think this is the point that the OP was trying to get at. The L2P argument is only as credible as the person who uses it, and somone who uses the L2P argument shouldn’t ever use it against another profession, or else they’re a hypocrite.

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Posted by: The Game Slayer.7632

The Game Slayer.7632

I figure the huge crying masses are doing enough to get warrior nerfed that I don’t need to add my input in very often.

You’re name perfects your post. I lol’d.

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

Viking Jorun.5413

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. healing signet is really OP

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

If he has 200+ wins on his warrior in tPvP does it make his argument much stronger than yours?

in that case we can start a discussion on a solid base, cos both of us can bring valid points in the discussion based on the real experience, but since he doesn’t have any tPvP experience while I have on many different classes and still he is calling me “noob” not the opposite, well yes my point is more valid than its. I can compare thief, Necro, Ranger, Guardian gameplay to warrior and I can say Warrior is OP compared to these classes.
I never said I am pro and never called other “noobs”, actually I even admitted I am noob compared to more experienced players, what I’m saying is that tPvP experience matters a lot. But usually the less experienced players are the ones that fill their arguments with trash talking.

Ah. but the entire basis of this thread is what Zacharry(op) had posted. I was simply showing you the other side. Now you see. I hate thieves, but hey thats me and Ill get over it. Throwing the L2P argument is by its fundamentals simply discrediting the other players experience in the game. I literally wreck warriors, I don’t see how they’re a problem. But yet you do? Maybe its a L2P issue? See? Back to square one. You see how all these people defend thieves by saying ‘L2P’, and, that’s an okay argument to use apparently. Its in your signature. And you cannot deny it. But wait until someone tells you to ‘L2P’ against another profession that you clearly think is overpowered and you go crazy I think this is the point that the OP was trying to get at. The L2P argument is only as credible as the person who uses it, and somone who uses the L2P argument shouldn’t ever use it against another profession, or else they’re a hypocrite.

I will disagree. When thieves say El Toopy because the person its being directed at has shown no experience with the profession nor any desire to gain any. The goal of shoving L2P in someone’s face is to get them to learn by experiencing the class first hand.

This is true with any profession as well. Learn the profession by playing the profession to the point where you understand it enough to almost read it.

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Posted by: Kenmei.7138

Kenmei.7138

I have no problem with stun warriors. True they’re annoying and fights are long, but since I have warrior also they’re rly predictable. Condi warrior tho is another story :/

Tho they are the easiest faceroll class comparing to others.

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

Knighthonor.4061

The rest of the community is already on that. Something like the first 5 threads were some form of nerf warrior last time I checked.

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Posted by: Kolly.9872

Kolly.9872

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

If he has 200+ wins on his warrior in tPvP does it make his argument much stronger than yours?

in that case we can start a discussion on a solid base, cos both of us can bring valid points in the discussion based on the real experience, but since he doesn’t have any tPvP experience while I have on many different classes and still he is calling me “noob” not the opposite, well yes my point is more valid than its. I can compare thief, Necro, Ranger, Guardian gameplay to warrior and I can say Warrior is OP compared to these classes.
I never said I am pro and never called other “noobs”, actually I even admitted I am noob compared to more experienced players, what I’m saying is that tPvP experience matters a lot. But usually the less experienced players are the ones that fill their arguments with trash talking.

Ah. but the entire basis of this thread is what Zacharry(op) had posted. I was simply showing you the other side. Now you see. I hate thieves, but hey thats me and Ill get over it. Throwing the L2P argument is by its fundamentals simply discrediting the other players experience in the game. I literally wreck warriors, I don’t see how they’re a problem. But yet you do? Maybe its a L2P issue? See? Back to square one. You see how all these people defend thieves by saying ‘L2P’, and, that’s an okay argument to use apparently. Its in your signature. And you cannot deny it. But wait until someone tells you to ‘L2P’ against another profession that you clearly think is overpowered and you go crazy I think this is the point that the OP was trying to get at. The L2P argument is only as credible as the person who uses it, and somone who uses the L2P argument shouldn’t ever use it against another profession, or else they’re a hypocrite.

LOL where I have said that I cannot kill Warriors? I was just saying that I have experience in tPvP (not WvW) with different classes, something that you don’t have, and I can compare those classes and actually I admit that the Warrior is the most faceroll class that can accomplish many different roles in tPvP with easy and still kill anyone else 1v1.
L2P was used by thieves towards those people that showed their lack of knowledge and still cryed river on the forum.
I don’t cry river, Warrior is actually one of my preferred tPvP class, but I don’t lie by saying that this class is fine.

You can wreck warriors in WvW? fine
Wanna try to wreck my warrior 1v1 then while I hold a node and make point for my team?
Or in a team fight while I support my dpsser teammates using shouts heal and warhorn skills? crazy right? Actually this build was overbuffed too in the 15th october patch.
Well when you wanna have a try, give me a shot

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Posted by: The Game Slayer.7632

The Game Slayer.7632

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

If he has 200+ wins on his warrior in tPvP does it make his argument much stronger than yours?

in that case we can start a discussion on a solid base, cos both of us can bring valid points in the discussion based on the real experience, but since he doesn’t have any tPvP experience while I have on many different classes and still he is calling me “noob” not the opposite, well yes my point is more valid than its. I can compare thief, Necro, Ranger, Guardian gameplay to warrior and I can say Warrior is OP compared to these classes.
I never said I am pro and never called other “noobs”, actually I even admitted I am noob compared to more experienced players, what I’m saying is that tPvP experience matters a lot. But usually the less experienced players are the ones that fill their arguments with trash talking.

Ah. but the entire basis of this thread is what Zacharry(op) had posted. I was simply showing you the other side. Now you see. I hate thieves, but hey thats me and Ill get over it. Throwing the L2P argument is by its fundamentals simply discrediting the other players experience in the game. I literally wreck warriors, I don’t see how they’re a problem. But yet you do? Maybe its a L2P issue? See? Back to square one. You see how all these people defend thieves by saying ‘L2P’, and, that’s an okay argument to use apparently. Its in your signature. And you cannot deny it. But wait until someone tells you to ‘L2P’ against another profession that you clearly think is overpowered and you go crazy I think this is the point that the OP was trying to get at. The L2P argument is only as credible as the person who uses it, and somone who uses the L2P argument shouldn’t ever use it against another profession, or else they’re a hypocrite.

LOL where I have said that I cannot kill Warriors? I was just saying that I have experience in tPvP (not WvW) with different classes, something that you don’t have, and I can compare those classes and actually I admit that the Warrior is the most faceroll class that can accomplish many different roles in tPvP with easy and still kill anyone else 1v1.
L2P was used by thieves towards those people that showed their lack of knowledge and still cryed river on the forum.
I don’t cry river, Warrior is actually one of my preferred tPvP class, but I don’t lie by saying that this class is fine.

You can wreck warriors in WvW? fine
Wanna try to wreck my warrior 1v1 then while I hold a node and make point for my team?
Or in a team fight while I support my dpsser teammates using shouts heal and warhorn skills? crazy right? Actually this build was overbuffed too in the 15th october patch.
Well when you wanna have a try, give me a shot

What a good argument you hold, huh? What about when you tell people to learn to play against thieves when they have a solid argument like you do? Do you see what I am saying? You can’t seriously say warriors are OP and be credited with such a claim when you hold a double standard with the thief profession. It all then simply boils down to my word against yours, AKA opinion.

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Posted by: The Game Slayer.7632

The Game Slayer.7632

The only difference is that in the case of warriors there are no false accusations. warriors are really OP

L2P noob. Make a warrior, play around with it. Find out what a warrior does by playing one yourself.

ok you called me noob. I have over 100+ tPvP wins with my warrior, of course it’s not the only class I can play but I am sure I have a better knowledge than you on how to play this class. How many tPvP did you have? How many tPvP did you played on your Warrior?
I am honest when I’m saying that this class is so overpowered compared to anyone else. I have my personal experience supporting me, I don’t play many hotjoins if not for a quick testing, so my knowledge comes from tPvP only and I can compare Warriors to at least Thieves, Necros, Rangers and Guardians since I usually switch between those classes when I play with my team, and I can assure you that the warrior is the most easiest faceroll class I have ever played. And in conclusion I am not just talking of that perma stun\regen build that everyone and his mother already knows, there are even more OP builds around than that one. I would say that the warrior is the most completed class reguarding viable tournament builds that can be made.
Now go back to play your PvE mate and thank you for remember me I am still noob compared to better and more experienced players, of course I am not talking of you.

If he has 200+ wins on his warrior in tPvP does it make his argument much stronger than yours?

in that case we can start a discussion on a solid base, cos both of us can bring valid points in the discussion based on the real experience, but since he doesn’t have any tPvP experience while I have on many different classes and still he is calling me “noob” not the opposite, well yes my point is more valid than its. I can compare thief, Necro, Ranger, Guardian gameplay to warrior and I can say Warrior is OP compared to these classes.
I never said I am pro and never called other “noobs”, actually I even admitted I am noob compared to more experienced players, what I’m saying is that tPvP experience matters a lot. But usually the less experienced players are the ones that fill their arguments with trash talking.

Ah. but the entire basis of this thread is what Zacharry(op) had posted. I was simply showing you the other side. Now you see. I hate thieves, but hey thats me and Ill get over it. Throwing the L2P argument is by its fundamentals simply discrediting the other players experience in the game. I literally wreck warriors, I don’t see how they’re a problem. But yet you do? Maybe its a L2P issue? See? Back to square one. You see how all these people defend thieves by saying ‘L2P’, and, that’s an okay argument to use apparently. Its in your signature. And you cannot deny it. But wait until someone tells you to ‘L2P’ against another profession that you clearly think is overpowered and you go crazy I think this is the point that the OP was trying to get at. The L2P argument is only as credible as the person who uses it, and somone who uses the L2P argument shouldn’t ever use it against another profession, or else they’re a hypocrite.

I will disagree. When thieves say El Toopy because the person its being directed at has shown no experience with the profession nor any desire to gain any. The goal of shoving L2P in someone’s face is to get them to learn by experiencing the class first hand.

This is true with any profession as well. Learn the profession by playing the profession to the point where you understand it enough to almost read it.

Oh but the semantics are so plain my buddy. We are saying the same thing with different words.

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

Ah now I see what you did there.