Heartseeker spammers/people that need help.

Heartseeker spammers/people that need help.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

Ok as you all have seen we have many complainers about how HS is too OP or thakittens killing people just by mashing 2 2 2 2 2 from start til end. so ive made a video to explain some things and some examples to show what is going on and why. i hope this helps.

Heartseeker
3 Initiative
¾ Activation time

Leap and strike your foe. The less health your target has, the more damage you cause.

Damage 100%-50%: 336
Damage 50%-25%: 504
Damage 25%-0%: 672
Combo Finisher: Leap
Range: 450

not particularly strong until until its 25% or under i think. lets compare it to a more constant skill like Cloak and Dagger

Cloak and Dagger
6 Initiative
½ Activation time

Damage Damage: 504
Stealth: 3 s
Vulnerability: 5 s (3 stack)
Range: 130

average dmg per CND = 504
average dmg per HS= 504

coincidence? who knows?! lol bottom line is neither one of these are op. one has ranged attack for 3 init one has stealth(higher dmg,healing,condi removal,aoe blind) for 6 init. they are roughly in the same dept while CND gives a more strategic advantage. this isnt about CND just showing you that HS is not wildly strong. nobody can go around CNDing people to death :P nor can they HS them. unless they catch them under 50% hp when they are roaming. which is an unfortunate circumstance and unpredictable variable.

so all these stories of people being HS to death? ….unless ur running full zerk its not possible. that said lets see how it fairs against 3 difkittend of simple defenses.

defense A: dodge a few times only (left with 85% hp)
defense B: 2 dodge only then letting him finish all HS(55% hp left)
defense C: no dodges only skills (yes i know thief has invis but dont other classes have blocks? i figure its the same here bc it only takes abour 4-5 secs to finish all HS spamming)

take a look at the video. hope it helps you guys who actually are having problems with heartseeker spammers.

http://youtu.be/Jhua1AolN5U

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

backstab is what you want to dodge, if you get to the point where HS is going to kill you, you’re probably gonna die anyways.

All is vain.

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Posted by: TeamBattleAxe.3901

TeamBattleAxe.3901

HS is deadly against wounded opponents, but it’s still otherwise effective as an inexpensive gap-closer no matter how much life your opponent has. Against extremely mobile players, keeping up consistent close-range pressure with HS looks like spam even if a good chunk of the damage is actually coming from your auto-attacks.

People just tend to over-react a bit when they get blown up and cry 222222222 instead of paying attention and learning how to counter it.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

backstab is what you want to dodge, if you get to the point where HS is going to kill you, you’re probably gonna die anyways.

not talking bs…you are right…but this post is about people who QQ about HS and how it kills them by it being spammed. id rather see HS spammer than bs anyday….but this is not preference but ability to show how silly HS spamming is and how not powerful it is.