Guild Wars 2

or is it too late..? Ive tried a lot of different builds with thief except probably a good d/d one. I thought s/d wasnt popular so ive been running it awhile but the cnd reduction just sucks. I usually play WvW anyway, but thats where the DD reduction hurts. I always felt DD was a bit OP, but 50% made the attack worthless. so with a worthless 4, and a near worthless (though ive found it more helpful than others) 3… whats left for me to do? I have other 80s but I roll with the thief like my life depends on it. Close to getting Bolt, and im happy I didnt because I feel like the sword is worthless or close to it now. Help me evolve as a player… and guide me o wise ones. Whats a good D/D and whatever build. or anything. I dont want to go back to Ele this is my home

S/D still works well in WvW. The key components (CnD-Tactical Strike) remain the same.
S/D just sucks in sPvP.

I agree that Dancing Dagger now is useless, 4 init for junk :/

but I do pvp as well… so I need a pvp build

I think what they mean is that in wvw these nerfs didnt happen (if they say in pvp).

D/D is still good. BS/HS to your hearts content. Burst P/P (Haste Unload x3) is not great, but kind of works. S/P is the same deal. So is S/D… everything besides D/D is mediocre and not really viable.

It’s same as Warriors. Everybody thinks the class is OP, but it’s actually pigeon-holed into one gimmicky playstyle.

Dancing Dagger is no longer a damage tool. It is, however, still a very useful skill.

For one thing, it’s a fantastic projectile finisher. It has a 100% chance to combo, it’s spammable, and it bounces.

It’s also a great ranged cripple or AoE cripple. If you’re chasing someone and you can hit them with DD, it’s worth using.

You just can’t use three DDs to insta-kill a ranger now. I’m okay with that.

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S/D is still great for WvW. In fact, we got a small damage buff. However, the build is significantly weaker in sPvP, and it was already a mediocre sPvP build. In sPvP, stealth-heavy builds are significantly weaker, because you’re unable to contest or defend a point. If I’m defending, I go into stealth once and the node goes gray.

I’m probably going to have to come up with an sPvP variant.

I could sell you a thunderstone but I don’t think you have enough money for that.

But in relation to your question, the way things are shifting now it’s quite likely that SB or P/x will be the new in thing (pure speculation mind you). As to being better now, try a condition build with D/D or P/x I heard that they work really well, or you could go for the (very) slightly nerfed BS build, but in WvW the nerf is to stop DD from being useful… so to too much of a nerf really.

But aside from that, there aren’t that many builds for a thief, not even “viable” builds but just builds in general, mostly because our utilities are kind of terrible and our weapon combinations are… lackluster to say the least.

Dacromir.6207:

S/D is still great for WvW. In fact, we got a small damage buff.

If and only if C&D was not your primary method to execute Tactical Strike.

Tulisin.6945:

Dacromir.6207:

S/D is still great for WvW. In fact, we got a small damage buff.

If and only if C&D was not your primary method to execute Tactical Strike.

What do you mean by that? the reason I ask is because the CnD damage wasn’t lowered in WvW which is the only reason I can see to make that statement.

Coffeebot.3921:

Tulisin.6945:

Dacromir.6207:

S/D is still great for WvW. In fact, we got a small damage buff.

If and only if C&D was not your primary method to execute Tactical Strike.

What do you mean by that? the reason I ask is because the CnD damage wasn’t lowered in WvW which is the only reason I can see to make that statement.

You’re not going to get nearly the volume of TS for the minor TS boost to make up for the massive dancing dagger nerf without lots of C&D use. I guess this situation would also apply if you previously did not use dancing dagger.

Trying going for a P/D condition build. You’ve got range and the sneak attack deals 5 rapid shots + bleed.

As an S/D user, I must say, I don’t care about these nerfs. I’ll still find ways to fulfill my face wrecking needs.