Guild Wars 2

Lately when I go in for a backstab I hit my target but I do not crit but I get the revealed buff. With Hidden Killer there is a 100% chance to get a crit with an attack from stealth so why is it not working? Anyone getting this problem?

It could be weakness but I didn’t see it on my bar and I didn’t get the “Glancing” text or whatever it says when you have weakness on. I think it happens when you have less than 1 second of stealth left and you attack, its doesn’t count as an attack from stealth but you still get revealed. But it’s just a guess.

Im pretty sure it’s because the actual cap of crit chance is 99%, could be wrong but sometimes you just get really unlucky. Happens to me too.

Are you using a mug->backstab combo? I believe mug would interfere with your backstab causing it to reveal you and therefore lose your 100% crit backstab. That’s just a guess, I don’t know what else could be the issue.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Talk:Hidden_Thief also alledges that Hidden Thief won’t work with a pistol in main-hand and that auto-attack can rob one of the stealth and force “revealed”. You might experiment to see if disabling auto-attack on skill 1 resolves the issue.

It happens when you backstab someone but at the same time you finish your stealth time.

The game allows to use backstab but if the stealth time finish at the same time this error occurs.

It is because Backstab has a cast time !

I used to see this all the time and was wondering wtf is going on…

If you wait until the last second that you are still in stealth the cast time will register you being out of stealth when the BS lands.. it is quite strange beacuse you still get the reveal debuff.. thus it has to be a bug

Either way I stopped using that trait because I usually maximize my time in stealth and wait till the last second to BS which caused this trait to bug out a lot..

Some targets simply cannot be crit — for example, structures cannot be crit and Elementalist with Stone Heart cannot be crit — regardless of how high your crit chance is.

As far as I have experienced, it’s a bug. There is a period of time just before stealth ends where you can still “backstab” but since you de-stealth during the animation (before the damage is applied) you are no longer considered stealthed and you will get a non-crit backstab.

(EDIT) Basically this:

It is because Backstab has a cast time !

I used to see this all the time and was wondering wtf is going on…

If you wait until the last second that you are still in stealth the cast time will register you being out of stealth when the BS lands.. it is quite strange beacuse you still get the reveal debuff.. thus it has to be a bug

Either way I stopped using that trait because I usually maximize my time in stealth and wait till the last second to BS which caused this trait to bug out a lot..

Once upon a time, thieves who timed backstab until stealth wore off were able to restealth and backstab again, Anet frowned upon this and made backstabs always cause revealed, but however they didn’t make backstab always benefit from hidden killer.

From how I understood the combat engine, it filters what effects should be taken in account the moment a combat ability is successfully executed, for instance you can’t evade a critical hit, because the critical hit occurs something like 2ms after the attack lands. (something abusing this: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Incendiary_Powder )

tl;dr: The moment backstab is successfully executed it checks if hidden killer is active.

Narkodx.1472:

It is because Backstab has a cast time !

I used to see this all the time and was wondering wtf is going on…

If you wait until the last second that you are still in stealth the cast time will register you being out of stealth when the BS lands.. it is quite strange beacuse you still get the reveal debuff.. thus it has to be a bug

Either way I stopped using that trait because I usually maximize my time in stealth and wait till the last second to BS which caused this trait to bug out a lot..

That makes a lot of sense! I think the reason it gives the revealed buff is because it is a stealth move so the game thinks that I have to be in stealth to use the move so it just reveals me. But that’s a bug that would be nice to get fixed but not top priority compared to some other traits.