Guild Wars 2

I’ve been playing around with the Thief stealth line and I’ve found the invis on the Hidden Thief trait to be unreliable and weird. The stealth doesn’t happen until you reach your target so if you hit 1 too fast you do a regular autoattack instead of a backstab. You have to wait a bit after you steal before you can do the backstab, which is kinda annoying. I’m assuming it’s done this way because Mug counts as an attack and reveals you, but it is annoying.

If you begin to cast an AA before entering stealth it doesn’t matter when you gain stealth; you’re locked into the animation if you let the hit through. You’ll be revealed because you dealt damage from stealth, even if immediately upon gaining it or if you pre-casted in hopes to slip it in before the proc. The stealth gain from HT is immediate and gains priority over your precasted attack, and will make you revealed upon impact. If you want to stealth attack, you must first wait to gain stealth fully before attacking.

The same as how you can begin a backstab at the very end of stealth, lose stealth before the hit lands, and still get the backstab and self-reveal skill while not gaining stealth-based benefits such as Hidden Killer because you’re no longer in stealth at the time of damage.

Mug and HT no longer conflict so I’m not really sure what you’re on about. Steal Order will be Mug -> HT stealth all the time. Odds are a precasted AA is revealing you as it’ll get placed at the end of the attack queue.

Ultimately it just comes down to learning this and dealing with it.

DeceiverX.8361:

If you begin to cast an AA before entering stealth it doesn’t matter when you gain stealth; you’re locked into the animation if you let the hit through. You’ll be revealed because you dealt damage from stealth, even if immediately upon gaining it or if you pre-casted in hopes to slip it in before the proc. The stealth gain from HT is immediate and gains priority over your precasted attack, and will make you revealed upon impact. If you want to stealth attack, you must first wait to gain stealth fully before attacking.

The same as how you can begin a backstab at the very end of stealth, lose stealth before the hit lands, and still get the backstab and self-reveal skill while not gaining stealth-based benefits such as Hidden Killer because you’re no longer in stealth at the time of damage.

Mug and HT no longer conflict so I’m not really sure what you’re on about. Steal Order will be Mug -> HT stealth all the time. Odds are a precasted AA is revealing you as it’ll get placed at the end of the attack queue.

Ultimately it just comes down to learning this and dealing with it.

Well said.

Besides, it pays to wait for a moment to make sure you’re actually hitting from the back or the side.