High Crit P/D build

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Posted by: Loading.4503

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Lemme just start off by saying, im pretty sure imam get bashed on by people already saying pistol is garbage, and imma just say………… “….ok

I’ve been running a High Crit P/D build in WvWvW that doesn’t depend on bleed stacks and I’ve been having a lot of fun and success with it thought I share it and see if people like it.

10 Deadly Arts -III Mug
30 Critical strikes – V Pistol Mastery, VII Ankle Shots, XII Hidden killer
30 shadow Arts – IV shadows Embrace,VI Cloaked in Shadow, XI shadows Rejuvenation

Signet Of Malice, Roll For Initiative, Blinding Powder, Signet Of Shadow, Basilisk Venom

and Omnomberry ghost Really helps for this build

For Gears, I currently run with all berserker with rubies, I have not tried other stuff yet for more vit and toughness due to lack of gold, but running all berserker with rubies I still feel pretty comfortable and not as glass cannony because of the pistols range,stealth and healing.

pretty much with this build its similar to your regular p/d playstyle, but you don’t have to rely on sneak attack to stack bleeds, cause youll be doing a lot of crit dmg with your pistol. but still using CnD and sneak attack will give you a good quick burst of damage especially if you steal for that mug damage also.

I usually don’t use signet of malice, but with this build the healing gets complimented with omnomberry ghost food, for all the crits also and with hidden killer always critting your sneak attacks which is 5 different crits, you get the healing off those crits, and shadow rejuvenation for even more healing while stealthed.

for utilities, I guess you can swap them up, those are just my personal choices because I like the blinding I can get from it.

offhand weapon, I chose bow cause its always fun doing high damage with the bow

and that’s pretty much it, hope some of you guys like this and like I mentioned before about how I know imma get bashed on for a lot of people thats gonna say, pistols are just garbage, once again imma just say …………. “…………….. O.K

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

ZLE.8293

Why you use Hidden Killer,since only the first from 5 Sneak Attack shots would crit?It’s not worth it.Try Executioner trait instead.

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Why you use Hidden Killer,since only the first from 5 Sneak Attack shots would crit?It’s not worth it.Try Executioner trait instead.

cause sneak attack is only 5 shots right? unless I mistaken, but all the hits from sneak attacks crit, maybe you have it confused with unload with is a P/P build? but I like having the crits which gives me the heal if I need it, and unlike a backstab build where you want to burst them down asap, you can get away with a constant flow of dps with this weapon set

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

ZLE.8293

Why you use Hidden Killer,since only the first from 5 Sneak Attack shots would crit?It’s not worth it.Try Executioner trait instead.

cause sneak attack is only 5 shots right? unless I mistaken, but all the hits from sneak attacks crit, maybe you have it confused with unload with is a P/P build?

Sadly only the first crit(I mean it’s a 100% crit coming from the trait,the other 4 can always crit due to your high crit chance,but it’s not the same,isn’t it?).You can always test it.

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Posted by: Loading.4503

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I’ve never actually paid attention to be 100% sure, but im pretty sure the entire sneak attack counts as 1 hit even though it does multiple shots, and just from playing it for a while, I don’t think ive seen it not crit on all the hits but ill hit the golems in spvp to see

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Posted by: Loading.4503

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I’ve never actually paid attention to be 100% sure, but im pretty sure the entire sneak attack counts as 1 hit even though it does multiple shots, and just from playing it for a while, I don’t think ive seen it not crit on all the hits but ill hit the golems in spvp to see

yea ok, its just the first hit that was disappointing, but it doesn’t mean its still not a quick burst of damage

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

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I still recommend,that you change to Executioner.20% damage bonus if the target is <50% is a lot.Also many people tend to panic as their health goes down.They lose focus and start to make mistakes,and exactly at this time you will make noticeably more damage to benefit from those mistakes.Win!

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I still recommend,that you change to Executioner.20% damage bonus if the target is <50% is a lot.Also many people tend to panic as their health goes down.They lose focus and start to make mistakes,and exactly at this time you will make noticeably more damage to benefit from those mistakes.Win!

yea, after finding that out, I just might switch to that

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

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What happens if you go up against this guy, who wins if neither of you decides to run:

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Posted by: Tulisin.6945

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Lemme just start off by saying, im pretty sure imam get bashed on by people already saying pistol is garbage, and imma just say………… “….ok

There’s nothing wrong with P/D, mainly because P/D takes almost nothing from pistol.

That said, I wouldn’t go high-crit with P/D unless you were intending to run condition damage anyways and double-stack crits with a bleed-on-proc sigil. I’m sure it works for you, but most of P/D’s potential lies in the bleed stacks.

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Posted by: emanius.9851

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Im using P/D Tank-Condition build, gear on vitality-toughness and i think to try this way.
Maybe a mix with Berserker’s can be ok.
Sounds cool

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Posted by: electricblues.1059

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Cempa.5619 please don’t post videos of Wild Bill. He’s a notorious exploiter (jumping over gates in wvw). Also, if anyone got him close to death he would alt-f4.

I couldn’t think of a worse example of thief.

As for the op, that is one of the great things about this game is that you can find a build that isn’t 100% as strong as the others, but still play it to be basically as effective as other builds. Good for you

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Posted by: Loading.4503

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What happens if you go up against this guy, who wins if neither of you decides to run:

I have faced other p/d thieves, and pretty much I just tear em apart. The other thief stacks a lot of bleeds, but their pistol dmg is still weak, so I can always go to stealth to remove the conditions and out heal their low damage. And meanwhile I’m doing heavy damage on them where they can’t even outheal it.

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Posted by: Einlanzer.1627

Einlanzer.1627

Lemme just start off by saying, im pretty sure imam get bashed on by people already saying pistol is garbage, and imma just say………… “….ok

There’s nothing wrong with P/D, mainly because P/D takes almost nothing from pistol.

That said, I wouldn’t go high-crit with P/D unless you were intending to run condition damage anyways and double-stack crits with a bleed-on-proc sigil. I’m sure it works for you, but most of P/D’s potential lies in the bleed stacks.

I wouldn’t say there’s nothing wrong with it, just that it’s a bit closer to being functional than P/P because most of its DPS is Initiative free. The biggest problem IMO is that it relies on skirmishing to do decent damage, it’s pretty awful if you attempt to use it as a fully ranged build. And considering that you have to spend a lot of time in melee range you might as well just use melee weapons.

Again, the problem mostly surrounds Vital Shot and its complete inability to do maintain an acceptable amount of DPS while you’re maneuvering or recovering initiative.

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

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The best part about p/d is the ability to take on like 5 (sometimes more) zerglings that are worse than you.

I’d think going full zerker would really lower the number of people you can take on at once while making you more effective at taking out solo’s and duos which isn’t a problem normally anyway.

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

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http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-cR3V;1Zwkb0I5VOFd0;9;49TT;02;046A35A;4SRF6;2JF04JF048BX

Above is your build (OP build).

What about swiftness? You seem to have no way of getting it or is it from runes?

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Posted by: Webley.1295

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a build is a build and everyone has thier own

but if you do some number crunching and want to get serious about it and WvW/PvE/sPvP, this is not a build those types of players will pickup

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

Cempa.5619

a build is a build and everyone has thier own

but if you do some number crunching and want to get serious about it and WvW/PvE/sPvP, this is not a build those types of players will pickup

What you are saying is targeted at P/D in general or P/D Crit build?