Guild Wars 2

How effective are condition thieves?

I ended up coming up with this build, but I’m not sure how effective it would be in group scenarios where I can venom share for the full 5 targets.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoYVnMJCFNhNNBOPB8PhjWiyXGtRKyHijoI0BQIuAA-TxxBABaq+j0K/W+RAAwZAoP9Bps/wZKBJFAMrBA-e

Looks good, but a tiny bit glassy.

I’d opt out of leeching venoms for hidden thief and bewildering ambush for slight of hand, since you’re running DD for your main weapon set. Caltrops on dodge is up for debate, but if you like it go for it.

I’d also probably use P/D. with a posse I’d take devourer venom for stacking immob.
Be careful with that build, it doesnt have stunbreaks. you mess up once/fight a mesmer with power lock and youll wipe.

EDIT: If you’re running venomshare, you should carry other thieves and have them carry the venoms you cannot. you need at least one stunbreak and I’d assume withdraw in case you get slapped with a basi/entangle or something else you cannot dodge.

Is the build for PVP, PVE or WVW?

We’d be able to critic if we had more information

meepeY.2867:

Is the build for PVP, PVE or WVW?

We’d be able to critic if we had more information

If you click on the link, you’ll find your answer….sigh

meepeY.2867:

Is the build for PVP, PVE or WVW?

We’d be able to critic if we had more information

Seems like wvw since he bothered to choose armor names.

no amulet = not pvp.

EDIT: Nevermind, I’m an idiot. It’s for PVE. Anything works in PVE.

The intent was PvE. For WvW, I’d probably care less about condition duration, as they’re likely to get cleansed before running a full 10-20 seconds.

I’ve been considering sinister, but, I don’t know how to calculate power build DPS, so I have no idea how much direct damage I’d do. Leeching venoms are there mainly because of the life siphon damage. With might stacked, it adds around 630 dps to spider venom+Skale Venom used on cooldown.

Eponet.4829:

How effective are condition thieves?

I ended up coming up with this build, but I’m not sure how effective it would be in group scenarios where I can venom share for the full 5 targets.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoYVnMJCFNhNNBOPB8PhjWiyXGtRKyHijoI0BQIuAA-TxxBABaq+j0K/W+RAAwZAoP9Bps/wZKBJFAMrBA-e

TRAITS:

1. First thing first, Potent Poison is crap. It doesn’t matter if the Dev increased the damage by 100% because most of the Thief’s conditions are from Bleeding.
2. Now that’s out of the way, pick Improvisation instead since it gives you a chance to reset all your venoms on Steal. In addition, when you steal something that applies condition damage, it’s a big boost to your DPS.
3. Pick Sleight of Hand instead of Bewildering Ambush. SoH synergizes with Improvisation. More steal = more chances to reset your venoms = more damage.

SKILLS:
- Your choices aligned with mine — no change

GEARS:

1. Weapon and Armor: Dire is better than Carrion for your weapon and armor. Carrion is more for hybrid builds.
2. Acc: Dire is better than Sinister for your accessories. Sinister is good at procing sigil, since you don’t have those, you’re better off with Dire.
3. Runes: Kraits is better than Afflicted only because of the 6th set proc on Elite skill use. You can proc this every time your Elite goes off cool down. It’s perfect for your build since you’re using D/D.

OTHERS:
Food – always go for condition damage over duration. Only take duration if you are applying non-damage condition (i.e. Chill). So for this, you’re better off with Orrian Truffle Soup.

Crystals – Your choice of crystal is perfect for a Dire set. Another reason to choose Dire. You can easily reach 1900+ condition damage.