How is this staff daredevil dazing me? (Vid)

How is this staff daredevil dazing me? (Vid)

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

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Removed, got my answer. Thanks!

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

So…

1) This thief has a few stuns. Traited Steal, which dazes for a second, and Impact Strike, which has 3 available CC’s, Each with about a second stun each :
- Impact Strike
- Uppercut
- Finishing Blow

He also probably has Bandits defense, which when blocked, he gets a counter attack that kicks you down for a second.

2) The thief used a certain combo, and triggered it in a certain order. You dodged steal which is good, but because he starts out with blinding powder, he dodges, triggering bounding dodge animation, while stealing (which you evaded), the Bounding deals damage to you, followed by him entering stealth, ending with a backstab.

The order is something like this : Blinding powder -> Bounding dodge -> steal (This made him teleport to you) -> You dodge steal -> Bounding Dodge stealth -> Backstab

.edit: edited for clarification

(edited by JusticeRetroHunter.7684)

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

EremiteAngel.9765

So…

1) This thief has a few stuns. Traited Steal, which dazes for a second, and Impact Strike, which has 3 available CC’s, Each with about a second stun each :
- Impact Strike
- Uppercut
- Finishing Blow

He also probably has Bandits defense, which when blocked, he gets a counter attack that kicks you down for a second.

2) The thief used a certain combo, and triggered it in a certain order. You dodged steal which is good, but because he starts out with blinding powder, he dodges, triggering bounding dodge animation, while stealing (which you evaded), the Bounding deals damage to you, followed by him entering stealth, ending with a backstab.

The order is something like this : Blinding powder -> Bounding dodge -> steal (This made him teleport to you) -> You dodge steal -> Bounding Dodge stealth -> Backstab

.edit: edited for clarification

Thanks!!!
That was very helpful.
Looks like I am better off not dodging his steal from blinding powder? The backstab seems to hurt a lot more…

If I don’t dodge his steal from blinding powder, will he still be able to go invisible and backstab?

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Posted by: Wargameur.6950

Wargameur.6950

NO, you should evade both…Steal traited will inflict vulnerability and poison from the start. Your damages would drop by a good margin.

From a thief perspective, the best counter you can do is shroud + skill #2. You would do the burst at the end of his dodge applying condis and damages and then either blind him at close range or create distance to avoid the backstab ( if you lost the target ) with #2

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Posted by: Taobella.6597

Taobella.6597

i agree avoiding steal is more important then dodging back stab because steal refund thief 1.5 dodges <- does not sound like a big deal on paper but it very hard to deal with if you miss a steal.

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Posted by: EremiteAngel.9765

EremiteAngel.9765

Thanks for the tips too War and Tao. Was very helpful!
I’ll go ahead and delete the main post since I’ve gotten my answer.

Scourge Demo Weekend Roaming Video:
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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

Thanks!!!
That was very helpful.
Looks like I am better off not dodging his steal from blinding powder? The backstab seems to hurt a lot more…

If I don’t dodge his steal from blinding powder, will he still be able to go invisible and backstab?

Like someone else just said, you did the right thing by dodging his steal.

If he dodges while in blinding powder, he will go stealth regardless of whether he lands steal or not, and the only way to counter the incoming back-stab is to reveal him, or dodge his spike again.

Frankly, as a Necro with no defensive options, there was not much you could have done to avoid that spike, other than to gain enough distance away as to not be hit by the backstab. At that point in the fight, you were in Axe/WH while in close quarters. I would have immediately switch to staff to throw some marks on the floor.

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Posted by: Taobella.6597

Taobella.6597

fun way to fight thief is to spam cancel your elite. make it very hard for thief to know when you really want to cast it.

^ reason you spam cancel it is play out full animation so you cant tell if you really casting it or not.

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Posted by: omgdracula.6345

omgdracula.6345

Could you relink the video. I just wanted to take a look at it. For the fact you said staff daredevil but every skill mentioned sounds like typical D/P.

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Posted by: JusticeRetroHunter.7684

JusticeRetroHunter.7684

Could you relink the video. I just wanted to take a look at it. For the fact you said staff daredevil but every skill mentioned sounds like typical D/P.

Ya idk why the OP decided to delete their post.

I think he’s staff/DP Bound thief.