Guild Wars 2

We are the profession that relies most on teleportation and kiting than other professions. Thieves need to me mobile and always on top of their target or else we won’t do the damage that we need in order to win a fight and we will receive damage that will easily put us down with that HP pool.
Arenanet has now taken away numerous things that make this profession unique. Not only were several spots where one could teleport with Infiltrator’s Arrow and Shadowstep, no, other players take advantage of this crippling patch and lure the fight to someplace where there is ‘’no valid path to target’’ and kite us until we are dead. Not only did they cripple or absolutely destroy the thief’s capabilities of sticking to the target they have literally crippled our mobility as well. Those sweet spots where you could teleport on the bridge or on top of the roof in order to scout the area? ‘’no valid path to target’‘. Or you need to escape and try to teleport away from that warrior who rivals us in damage and onto that grassy rock? ’’no valid path to target’’ .

I see that there IS a positive aspec about this patch- You will not waste a teleportation skill and won’t get stuck in place or a wall. However, an experienced player will know the places where one should teleport and where not. It needs discovery in order not to waste the skill.

It is truly sad how much this ’’update’’ damages the thief, mesmers and elementalists, who can all use teleportation skills. I can only think this is a joke since several other bugs occured during the patch and I sincerely hope that this is just another bug. I hope this will not disencourage most players to give up on their thieves, but it most likely will since thief has ever since the release of gw2 been doomed to be the ‘’most nerfed profession in gw2 history’‘. Apart from the huge nerf on dagger storm, the ’’no valid path to target’’ update is a big factor which damages not only the quality in battles but also the possibilities that teleportation skills can offer.

Why don’t you just put us in a squared, even room already with no other means than beating the crap out of each other by facerolling over the keyboard?
If you do, please send me the amount of players taking their thieves and mesmers into this map and lets compare it with the rest of the professions- thank you.

Whoah whoah whoah, hold your horse there! Just about all the old teleport spots still work, in fact, there are even a lot of new ones. This was just a QoL patch – the amount of buggy Infiltrator’s Arrows you send out is now severely reduced – take a look at this thread for more info: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Videos-of-Port-Locations-in-PvP-maps/first#post4887972

Verilan.2963:

Whoah whoah whoah, hold your horse there! Just about all the old teleport spots still work, in fact, there are even a lot of new ones. This was just a QoL patch – the amount of buggy Infiltrator’s Arrows you send out is now severely reduced – take a look at this thread for more info: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Videos-of-Port-Locations-in-PvP-maps/first#post4887972

Maybe I should have specified. For me the teleportation spots in PvP don’t really matter since in my opinion thief does not really belong in PvP any longer (except for S/D perhaps for quickly capturing points). I was talking more about WvWvW (Taking out casters, small scale roaming etc.) and PvE (dungeon teleportation spots or simply stealing is bugged out and one is left with wasting time spamming the f1 button and changing positions until it finally works. E.g. Ascalon when stacking in corners I usually get that glorious message over and over again, I need the steal because of the damage boost of 10% and more).

WvWvW: Since the whole concept of blobs has to be reworked due to stability you should probably not quote me on that but as of now casters can simply memorize the spots where thieves cannot port and they’ll be safe from surprise attacks (except for stealth surprise attack but generally our options are fewer). I find this problematic since the role of a thief in zerg fights is taking out the casters in the rear, but since we can’t port to them any longer we have to actually somehow walk to them (in stealth) and that takes both time and some HP in order to reach them. Furthermore, they can, as already stated, kite us around since our mobility depends often on teleportation skills.

In PvE it gets less tricky. There I sometimes faced situations where I wanted to teleport away from a target but couldn’t do it compared to how I usually could. There are still spots left that one can teleport to but the most important ones are gone (only experienced AC and sorrow’s embrace so far).

While in PvP there’s so much improvement and I’m happy for it if it weren’t for the general PvP system of having to capture points and how it doesn’t synergize with thief at all. Except for decapping empty points, which hopefully aren’t occupied by a decap engi

I’ll take another look at wvw and maybe document all the spots that in my opinion are really valuable to the thief, mesmers and elementalists. Can’t really do PvE since I’m not a hardcore player, so maybe one of you could help me out?
And if someone could explain to me what makes theif viable in PvP and that no other class can do please do so, I’ll look forward to it. Thank you.

Try aiming at a close point.
For example, you can’t port up the Archway from Vale Camp anymore, you can however port up just to the side of it though.
Ok, it’s a bit slower from before but it’s not nearly as bad as you might think at first.
You’ll just have to run around shooting your shortbow everywhere again, just like you did back when you were a newb

I found most spots still work and many other have been added or made more reliable, just have to take a step to the side for some of the old ones that are now slightly different.

Don’t know about any PvE though… I completely neglect that side of the game, hehe.

EDIT:

Try aiming at a close point.

That might be a bi unclear…
I mean, try aiming at a point, close to where you would aim prior to this update. It’s likely that it has only moved over about an inch.

MrKahwk.9524:

I need the steal because of the damage boost of 10% and more.

What damage boost?

Molch.2078:

MrKahwk.9524:

I need the steal because of the damage boost of 10% and more.

What damage boost?

From the trait ’’improvisation’’.

Just experienced “No valid path to target” when fighting an enemy on certain spots in WvW. Spammed my steal and it wouldn’t let me even though I’m seriously next to the person I’m fighting with nothing obstructing my path. :c

Wrapthor.1057:

Just experienced “No valid path to target” when fighting an enemy on certain spots in WvW. Spammed my steal and it wouldn’t let me even though I’m seriously next to the person I’m fighting with nothing obstructing my path. :c

Pebbles OP, please nerf.

MrKahwk.9524:

Molch.2078:

MrKahwk.9524:

I need the steal because of the damage boost of 10% and more.

What damage boost?

From the trait ’’improvisation’’.

Improvisation only increases your damage when you actually have something in your hand. Just using steal won’t trigger the damage bonus of that trait.

i can’t shadow step to a foe in the silverwastes which is a bit underneath and in range.

e. g. you are in one of these lanes on the upper side but you can not port to a foe which is in the mid of that lane. i don’t know what others did and how the abused it but this is just ridicilous.