Guild Wars 2

Stop thief!

hi I am a necro main in WvW and I struggle badly against hybrid thieves.

The pistol pistol + dagger dagger or pistol pistol + dagger pistol types.
or uh…what do hybrid thieves use?

They flash in and out, range and melee with such fluidity and dish out so much damage I don’t really know what to do.

Can any hybrid thief share on their weakness and strength?

and do hybrid thief struggle against any type of necro builds in WvW?
I know you can run, but if you stay and fight, any type of necro that gives you a hard or harder time?

Would be easier to formulate a suggestion if you could give us your build.

you want my secret build to rule the world…I am a hybrid necro myself….muahahahahahahhahaahhahaha

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UbbnNO2wfbCchSqeA6FIAaho/gJIfB-TFDFABNq+jc7PAwRA43TAgAHCAkUKkm2AmUWAlSs40BolSQlfAABAQAmZZWmzMwRP6RP6RPa7cmHdnH9olCAmlVA-w

Hints :

- toughness > 1.2K at least
- kiting : snares / slow / chills (use staff)
- absorb the burst with Death Shroud
- If thief goes into stealth : bomb area.

When thief uses his steal go into shroud and use fear.

That should give you a better chance, a slim one, but at least you have one.

p.s. : necro has one of the highest hp pools in the game, esp in shroud, use that wisely before a thief or any other class bursts ya. So anticipate.

Condi pressure ruins the day of any thief, really.
You could also blow your Lich/Plague on them but I’d advice to keep it for a more dire situation.

But yeah, unless you’re up against some scrub who relies on traiting deep into Shadow Arts (the stroboscope stealthers ones who heal in stealth), putting constant (AoE) Condi pressure will be the key.

Put down a Spectral Wall and stand on it after his Reveal wears off. Then do your thing and hope for the best.

Like any thief fight the key is to deny them their ability to disengage. If you’re running something like terrormancer, use your staff marks as a sort of detection field. And try to always be standing on at least one when the fight begins. Any fight with a thief in WvW roaming is going to be them stealthing up, using steal, fear you with skull fear for a 3 second window of free damage. Now as others have said here, you can use deathshroud to fear them away and stop the damage, but they’ll usually just wait it out and come back once you’ve exited deathshroud.

So, that leaves one option, fear. Thieves don’t usually run with many stunbreakers, least from what I’ve seen. If you can make the fear stick, you can burst them down before they have a chance to reset the fight. And as the people above me have said, unless trained they don’t have much condition removal except for their hide in shadows heal.

Now if running power, I recommend fire and air sigils, and maining dagger/warhorn with whatever weapon you wanna use as backup, I prefer axe to staff for power builds personally but hey, each his own. For power, I run spectral grasp, armor and Plague signet. The biggest reason for the proc sigils is not only that added bit of damage, but also the fact that if hit, even in stealth, it will show their location and let you just wail on them. With trained warhorn, you can have locust swarm up for 15 seconds on a 24 second cool down. With a bit of boon duration, you can have 100% swiftness uptime. Combine this with the fact you have dagger AA, life transfer, tainted shackles, possibly well of suffering if you’re will to sacrifice another stun break, you’ll find you’ll be pricing those sigils a lot, plus the spinal shivers proc helps too. even downed thieves won’t be safe as long as you get your down 1 off before they stealth as it will track them through their stealth. I’ve downed and killed a lot of thieves this way.

When it comes down to it, fighting a thief is all about telling them no. No, I won’t let you disengage, no I won’t let you hide, no I won’t let you burst me. It’s tough really, especially as a necro as we don’t have acces to blocks and blinds and just flat out “nope” skills like other classes down. But it can be done if played right and denying them the ability to choose when to disengage and hide.

One bit of worry though : if you encounter a thief with sigil of cleansing on their weaponset : no condi pressure to put on. (i always use those, i find cleansing sigils the most awesome out there, aside from torment)

EremiteAngel.9765:

you want my secret build to rule the world…I am a hybrid necro myself….muahahahahahahhahaahhahaha

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UbbnNO2wfbCchSqeA6FIAaho/gJIfB-TFDFABNq+jc7PAwRA43TAgAHCAkUKkm2AmUWAlSs40BolSQlfAABAQAmZZWmzMwRP6RP6RPa7cmHdnH9olCAmlVA-w

I’ve just looked at this gear atrocity and can only say a couple things.
If you got a combination of Condition Damage, Power, Precision, Toughness and Vitality and Ferocity(6 stats), then why don’t you just use some Celestial pieces to get more overall stats without sacrificing anything?
In either case looks like a very weak build to me…

Evalia.7103:

EremiteAngel.9765:

you want my secret build to rule the world…I am a hybrid necro myself….muahahahahahahhahaahhahaha

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNArYWjc0UbbnNO2wfbCchSqeA6FIAaho/gJIfB-TFDFABNq+jc7PAwRA43TAgAHCAkUKkm2AmUWAlSs40BolSQlfAABAQAmZZWmzMwRP6RP6RPa7cmHdnH9olCAmlVA-w

I’ve just looked at this gear atrocity and can only say a couple things.
If you got a combination of Condition Damage, Power, Precision, Toughness and Vitality and Ferocity(6 stats), then why don’t you just use some Celestial pieces to get more overall stats without sacrificing anything?
In either case looks like a very weak build to me…

I don’t go celestial because my condi stats suffers.
Would like to see your build since my build is very weak =)