Guild Wars 2

more timing and skill is s/p with shortbow bulids have betetr esults if you put skill into it?

or can you tell me a class with a high skill cap?

Sword/pistol is still pretty much a one trick pony. Replace Heartseeker with Pistol Whip. I’ve been using a Pistol/Dagger setup with pretty good results that requires a bit more finesse in managing cooldowns and such to handle self healing and such. Look up “Guild Wars 2 Wild Bill” on youtube. It’s not me, but he’s a hell of a good player and using his build with some slight tweaks, and it’s a fun build.

Getting a D/D or S/P build just to spam HS/PW is noobish. Players who spam HS/PW are no skill noobs, who don’t know what to do if their HS/PW was countered. If you are running D/D, learn how to land Backstabs, how to chain stealth with C&D, and when to use Dancing Dagger. You also can go to P/D with condition damage and survivability, as Calysto.7469 said, watch Wild Bill, he is really good at it.

Try a Dagger/Pistol set. Those can be pretty fun as you play around with proper timings on the stealth combo and positioning on the backstab.

The Thief is very dynamic, only the unskilled think there simple/easy profession.

dagger pistol is what you’re looking for in terms of timing

And what exactly is “HS build”?!!??
You talk about “skill cap” and yet you understand high damage/crit D/D or D/P setup as “HS build” and not Backstab build?I checked your post history,and you are everywhere: you already mastered elementalist,mesmer, ranger and thief.You must be either the best gamer in the world…or the worst!
So to conclude:That leaves you with 4 more classes to master:guardian,warrior,necro and engineer .Shouldn’t take you long.

Try pistol/dagger, focus on condition damage and healing, shadow arts and trickery, buff your Steal ability as much as possible. You can get some crazy heals and bleeds from cloak and dagger + sneak attack and you can kite very well too, and most of all, it’s fun!

D/D is more then just Heartseeker spam. HS is just a gap closer and a execute. You always throw dancing daggers when people stand next to each other for 4 hits. If your immobilized you can avoid burst by pressing 3.. you can still do the attack even though you cannot move and avoid damage. Cloak and dagger is bread and butter good thieves stealth a lot it’s your survivability. There are a lot of really bad players currently pvping who will say your a HS spammer when you killed them and only pressed 2 once. After the nerf to HS anyone who dies to those really bad thieves who just press 2… well those players who die are even worse then the thief is…

Auron.2657:

The Thief is very dynamic, only the unskilled think there simple/easy profession.

^This. Even when I combo, backstab, dodge hammer smashes, heal to break conditions, etc, the only thing people cry about is when they’re running and I use 1 HS to catch up, and another to make them sit on the ground. Then they cry about 2 button classes. Kinda funny though.

Syynx.5762:

Try pistol/dagger, focus on condition damage and healing, shadow arts and trickery, buff your Steal ability as much as possible. You can get some crazy heals and bleeds from cloak and dagger + sneak attack and you can kite very well too, and most of all, it’s fun!

can you please more specific…how you get crazy heals? why is steal so important?

Candiru.5279:

Syynx.5762:

Try pistol/dagger, focus on condition damage and healing, shadow arts and trickery, buff your Steal ability as much as possible. You can get some crazy heals and bleeds from cloak and dagger + sneak attack and you can kite very well too, and most of all, it’s fun!

can you please more specific…how you get crazy heals? why is steal so important?

Traits can give you heal on going into stealth.

Steal is quite possibly the best skill for thief. Instant distance closer that doesn’t interrupt an attack (and can therefore be used to start an attack from far away and get it off directly on top of them), deals insane damage with Mug, and can be used to stop people from kiting you with Immobilize. There’s even more things Steal can do (not even counting the actual ability that you steal) if you go through the utility traits rather than damage traits.

When I first started, I didn’t think Steal was that good. I was really freakin’ wrong.

yeah but the heal on stealth is not “crazy”
further if you go for condition dmg mug dmg is not very high?!

the heal on stealth goes a long way to help with survival tho.

but honestly i feel a bit disgusted that someone felt they could come in here and admit to using HS spam build and that they are “bored” with it.

have you no shame OP?

Candiru.5279:

yeah but the heal on stealth is not “crazy”
further if you go for condition dmg mug dmg is not very high?!

I use this setup:
carrion amulet+shaman jewel+2 aflicted+2 krait+2 lissa, as equipment;
i put 0/0/30/20/20 as my traits, shadow protector+shadow embrace+shadow rejuvenation+assassins reward
Whenever i enter stealth, i get: 331 hps from rejuvenation (4secs=1324 heal), 6 secs of regen (6178=1068 heal) and 412 from assassins trigger on C&D (its bugged, should be 510), for a grand total of 2084 health gain… if i use shadow refuge (and i do) ill get: 2084+424*4=2084+1696=3780 health… and this last one ends with life steal from sneak attack, wich is 5*385=1925… grand total?? → 5075 health gain along with a sneak attack that does ~3000 dmg.

Clarified much,now?

is shortbow used for raw dmg or condition dmg/ how do i get that bleed dmg from the 2 skill?

A lot of people go condition build for shortbow, but you might be surprised just how well a power/crit build works.

I finally was able to login, just to amend my early post, coz i gave the wrong numbers there: in the first case, when i say that whenever i stealth i gain 2084 HP, its obviously wrong, what i get is this:
→ 1324+1068+412=2804, instead of 2084;
→ stealthing with shadow refuge i get 2804+1696=4500HP, add life steal (only active until the end of the 4th second) and ull get 6425 HP.
Hope this clarifies how much heal u can get with stealth and assassins reward put together.