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Posted by: Christonya.3856

Christonya.3856

So… We have all these cool new elite specializations doing all these cool new things. New cool effects, new cool abilities, brand new traits that are designed in a lot of ways, to make up for the base classes faults…..

And then there’s the dare devil. Recycled animations. A trait line, that is pretty much the same as an existing traitline (Acro) that made that existing traitline worthless. It got some nice things, not much. It kept thieves in the same position of mobile decapper, thieves still have no options out side of dps, some of our biggest draw backs were never addressed …

To top it all off our new class ‘mechanic’ is one extra dodge. Which we were flat out told today, that dodging isn’t going to be enough in the newer content.

So im confused. It feels like, our elite specialization is just an improved form of our trait line acrobatics. That’s it. Nothing cool, nothing unique, nothing game changing, just an extra dodge, and again, an improved already existing trait line.

……

Perhaps rolling the current DD stuff into acrobatics and redesigning the DD into (insert new name here) class that uses a 1200 range staff with shadow magic and gets all sorts of new and exciting and unique animations, abilities, some support capabilities (so the class isn’t pure dps) and so on might be a more appropriate idea?

My level of excitement for this expansion dwindles each day when I think about playing my main in HOT, and improves when I consider rerolling necro, then dwindles again when I realize the play style I want is only available to the thief (stealth bursty sneaky).

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Posted by: wolfpaq.7354

wolfpaq.7354

To top it all off our new class ‘mechanic’ is one extra dodge. Which we were flat out told today, that dodging isn’t going to be enough in the newer content.

This is the biggest problem, right here. Clearly there is some heavy miscommunication going on at arenanet because this tidbit confirms that the daredevil spec is completely worthless.

The thief elite spec and HoT content is being developed in such a way that the two are incompatible. And the result is that thieves are screwed. This is even more outrageous than the sneak gyro or the druid’s super speed stealth.

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Posted by: El Psy Congroo.7965

El Psy Congroo.7965

For players that have been playing thief as main all this years (like me), the elite spec is definitely a huge let down.
A shadow magic staff as you say would have been awesome, but this crap the we are getting is just.. meh.
I’ll just continue using the same old d/p build and ask for a refund.

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Posted by: Christonya.3856

Christonya.3856

To top it all off our new class ‘mechanic’ is one extra dodge. Which we were flat out told today, that dodging isn’t going to be enough in the newer content.

This is the biggest problem, right here. Clearly there is some heavy miscommunication going on at arenanet because this tidbit confirms that the daredevil spec is completely worthless.

The thief elite spec and HoT content is being developed in such a way that the two are incompatible. And the result is that thieves are screwed. This is even more outrageous than the sneak gyro or the druid’s super speed stealth.

It’s funny too, cause my first experience in HOT content last BWE was the personal story bit where the mobs put torment on me. And I died to the torment. Because my class still lacks good condi clear…. And now I am being told my extra dodge ain’t going to do kitten for me as well…. I don’t think I am being too absurd to say they really should roll the DD stuff (the extra dodge ect) into acrobatics and completely remake our kitten elite spec from the ground up, giving us a second roll for us to perform.

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Posted by: El Psy Congroo.7965

El Psy Congroo.7965

To top it all off our new class ‘mechanic’ is one extra dodge. Which we were flat out told today, that dodging isn’t going to be enough in the newer content.

This is the biggest problem, right here. Clearly there is some heavy miscommunication going on at arenanet because this tidbit confirms that the daredevil spec is completely worthless.

The thief elite spec and HoT content is being developed in such a way that the two are incompatible. And the result is that thieves are screwed. This is even more outrageous than the sneak gyro or the druid’s super speed stealth.

It’s funny too, cause my first experience in HOT content last BWE was the personal story bit where the mobs put torment on me. And I died to the torment. Because my class still lacks good condi clear…. And now I am being told my extra dodge ain’t going to do kitten for me as well…. I don’t think I am being too absurd to say they really should roll the DD stuff (the extra dodge ect) into acrobatics and completely remake our kitten elite spec from the ground up, giving us a second roll for us to perform.

That’s what they should do, but they wont.
Sadly..

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Posted by: kash.9213

kash.9213

I don’t think I am being too absurd to say they really should roll the DD stuff (the extra dodge ect) into acrobatics and completely remake our kitten elite spec from the ground up, giving us a second roll for us to perform.

I like the idea of the Daredevil mechanics and I wouldn’t want to lose that playstyle just yet. I think DD would have been fun as a more reserved build up to an explosive execution with the staff or by hand like with Fist flurry. It would put some distance between DD and Acro and given the opportunity to re-route some of those acrobatic mechanics back into the Acro line.

Kash
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Posted by: Christonya.3856

Christonya.3856

I don’t think I am being too absurd to say they really should roll the DD stuff (the extra dodge ect) into acrobatics and completely remake our kitten elite spec from the ground up, giving us a second roll for us to perform.

I like the idea of the Daredevil mechanics and I wouldn’t want to lose that playstyle just yet. I think DD would have been fun as a more reserved build up to an explosive execution with the staff or by hand like with Fist flurry. It would put some distance between DD and Acro and given the opportunity to re-route some of those acrobatic mechanics back into the Acro line.

The problem is, no matter what, the DD will be pretty much just a better acro trait line. The only way to fix that is to merge the two (keeping the DD play style but attached to acro .. as they are one and the same as is), and then give us a REAL elite specialization that is entirely unique but plays into the thief. A stealthy shadow caster would have been INSANE and if done right it could have easily drawn the attention the chrono, reaper, druid, and scrapper have. Instead we might have other specs considering rerolling thief, rather then us rerolling reaper.