Guild Wars 2

I have an 80 of every class in all the best gear possible (so therefore my opinion matters more I guess?). Thieves are fine.

edit: Oh and I’ve been playing MMO’s for 25 years too!

Well I’ve played MMO’s for 56.5 years and I don’t think it is.

Now, can you see how silly that argument is?

It’s not a silly argument unless you are delusional. When I can put 28 k damage on you in 2 seconds and you drop over dead before barely being able to react your class will get the nerf. Don’t get me wrong…it’s fun but after doing this 1000 X over and over…it’s not that I am super skilled but I am playing an op class.

Disagree if you want but you clearly fall into the delusions of grandeur category. We’re not that good..our class is and it won’t last. Just don’t qq too hard when it does end.

I’ve been playing games of all kinds for 18 years, and only two of them have been relevant.

Why? Because until then, I never put effort into trying to better myself at said games.

I’ve seen people play fighters, shooters, RTSs, and RPGs for thousands of hours and never get a slight bit better than they were after about ten hours of playtime.

28k?
wow :|
and the average player has 14 – 18k hp, that really is a lot of damage.

They see me trollin…

They hatin’….

Do you think thieves are overpowered in WvW and sPvP? I really don’t think thieves are overpowered in WvW once they fix the rendering issue. sPvP… thieves are really strong.

I hold a Doctorate in MMO balance, a Master’s in sneaky classes, and I played the original punch card computer mmo and I say thieves need a couple tweaks.

Your move.

SirWilliam.6937:

It’s not a silly argument unless you are delusional. When I can put 28 k damage on you in 2 seconds and you drop over dead before barely being able to react your class will get the nerf. Don’t get me wrong…it’s fun but after doing this 1000 X over and over…it’s not that I am super skilled but I am playing an op class.

Disagree if you want but you clearly fall into the delusions of grandeur category. We’re not that good..our class is and it won’t last. Just don’t qq too hard when it does end.

Except when I fight you in the build you are complaining about with my over 20k health, lots of toughness and two hard counters you aren’t hitting for even close to that much and I destroy you while you try to run away because you are a cooldown cowboy.

That build is good at killing people who don’t understand mechanics, are low level and/or under-geared. It just so happens a vast majority of those running around WvW have one or more of those “attributes” (you being one).

how does one hit 28k?

Must be fun to create posts here and pull numbers out of thin air…. let me try it…. I hit a over 100k on rabbits… well that was boring… Honestly I thought it was against the rules of the forum to troll. Anet may need to lock a lot things in this sub forum :/

The first MMO came out 18 years ago, not 20.

Daecollo.9578:

The first MMO came out 18 years ago, not 20.

Shh, you just fall into OP’s delusional category. He is a “sir” afterall.

I have been playing videogames for 20 years(pinball, pacman in the arcade, battle zone, galaga, etc), and I main a thief.

Whenever I’m playing one of my alts(warrior, ranger, necro), I tend to own thieves because I know how they work and what they’re likely to try doing. I love dodging or blocking out of their uber combo. Stun breakers wreck a lot of their strategy as well.

Thieves are not OP, class and game knowledge is. L2P is the only real answer in this case. If I can beat a thief on a RANGER (thought to be the weakest class in sPVP) you know it can’t be OP.

There are things that are op and things that are up. If all you care about is what is op, or perceived as op, you are not interested in balance. You want to be the most powerful at the expense of other classes, even if that in itself won’t last.

I hold a Doctorate in MMO balance, a Master’s in sneaky classes, and I played the original punch card computer mmo and I say thieves need a couple tweaks

Your move..

Theif to Mesmer’s Guardian 4

NWN came out 21~ years ago and could be considered the first modern graphical MMO. If you want to include MUDs then MMO history is much longer.

That said, as a thief I wouldn’t mind some fine-tuning of backstab*, but people are going to be very disappointed if they think all the problems they’re having with thieves are going to be solved by changing how backstab combos work. Straight nerfing PW didn’t really change much in the way of PvP, afterall.

*For instance, by changing how Assassin’s Signet works.

0/10 poorly executed troll. no points awarded.