Guild Wars 2

So I was wrong about this community, sorry.

It seems the thief nerfs have pigeon holed it into an HS spamming, stealth abusing class.

For some reason everything about thief but the above has been nerfed to high heavens.

I did level a thief and have been playing s/d only to find that most of the videos I see are old videos pre s/d nerf.

But any build not using SA trait line doesnt have a huge amount of stealth.

I will say, shadowsteps should have an evade aspect to them. I find it odd that I can shadow return/infiltrator return out of direction of a projectile and it follow me. (Possibly even a .25 stealth to it to kick their target).

And something needs to happen with AI right after stealth. Like engi AI, ranger AI , and necro AI, (yes and even rockdog) should be just as confused as the player after stealth.

No Im not the best thief in game, but still none the less.

While I disagree that a Thief needs stealth and that Sword+Dagger has been nerfed too much … you are capable of admitting that you were wrong about something …

… that makes you a better person/player than a majority of the playerbase for almost all (if not all) games :-) Seriously, good for you.

My advice when using Sword + Dagger is to largely ignore the fact that you have Cloak & Dagger for stealth. Sword + Dagger is all about evasion and dodges. Any time you actually stealth is just icing on your Evasion-filled cake.

Also, you will get hit. Smart players are aware of after-cast. As such, get hit by the weak stuff here and there, but make darn sure you don’t get hit by the burst. You have more than enough evasion+dodge to avoid all that burst.

Also don’t forget that you can abuse the heck out of Infiltrator’s Strike/Return to get on a target, do some damage, and then teleport back out of LOS of anything nasty.

Seeing as how I play a Ranger and a Mesmer more than anything else, I have a horse in this race … but I disagree with you about the AI as well. My Ranger pets especially already have a hard enough time keeping up with a Thief as they teleport around like nightcrawler. Mesmer Illusions can sometimes have the same issue … though many are ranged … shattering a Thief that then stealths before they get to him is aggravating though.

Good luck!

That one thing you bring up about shadowstepping is really annoying actually. If I shadow return to avoid a projectile, it really shouldn’t hit me when it hits the place I was just standing. Melee attacks let you juke like this, I would think that ranged attacks would too.

This has gotten me downed in the uncategorized fractal a couple of times before I realized that I was getting hit when his agony attacks hit where I shadowstepped from.

That would be a nice quality-of-life change, but, at the moment, the fact that it isn’t an evade should be something to be aware of. I don’t run my Thief in fractals, but, as I understand it, Shadowstep sooner or get hit.

WTB revert on sword and SB nerfs.