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Posted by: avilo.1942

avilo.1942

I played the thief for literally one reason – infiltrator’s strike and how dynamic and awesome this non-stealth play style was.

It was nerfed last patch with the range, now it seems anet wants to completely make it obsolete.

It figures they would start ransacking the sword eventually, they already nerfed everything else.

If this goes through, I’ll probably be removing everything from my thief, or possibly deleting him as the only reason I played thief was for the mobility of infiltrator’s strike/shadow return.

Thanks anet.

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Posted by: DanH.5879

DanH.5879

Yeah ! , and it wasn’t even on the nerf list ! WTF !?!

stealth nerfs are true !

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Posted by: Berengar.6951

Berengar.6951

It isn’t a true stun breaker but it is still an instant cast teleport. So you’ll be stunned for all 1/4 of a second but you’ll be 1200 units away from the guy who’s trying to jam a sword down your throat.

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Posted by: SharadSun.3089

SharadSun.3089

It isn’t a true stun breaker but it is still an instant cast teleport. So you’ll be stunned for all 1/4 of a second but you’ll be 1200 units away from the guy who’s trying to jam a sword down your throat.

Bahaha. I was waiting for someone to say it, and so tactfully.

But seriously, the man’s right. It’s still perfectly useful, it’s usable while stunned, but it’s not going to let you cheese with permanent mobility.

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Posted by: Softspoken.2410

Softspoken.2410

It isn’t a true stun breaker but it is still an instant cast teleport. So you’ll be stunned for all 1/4 of a second but you’ll be 1200 units away from the guy who’s trying to jam a sword down your throat.

Bahaha. I was waiting for someone to say it, and so tactfully.

But seriously, the man’s right. It’s still perfectly useful, it’s usable while stunned, but it’s not going to let you cheese with permanent mobility.

For an example of a useful skill that works somewhat like this: Mesmer staff’s phase retreat. If nothing else, they can escape skills like 100 blades very nicely.

Edit: I’m honestly a little sad to think of this skill without its stunbreak. I always thought it was hilarious that a cautious S/ thief could basically never be locked down.

Mixing insults with your post is like pooping in a salad.
It’s pretty obvious, and nobody’s impressed.

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Posted by: Kyrion.2749

Kyrion.2749

It was (well, technically it still is) our best defense against knockdowns, since the class have miserable access to stability.

Furthermore, in PvE some monster knockdowns are pretty long duration…. Oh! But who cares about PvE in first place? …

Nice Job with the promised thief-mobility buffs, Anet… You are doing a tremendous work here. Keep’m rolling… I’m curious to see how much more mobile could you make the thief class.

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Posted by: Daendur.2357

Daendur.2357

tbh it was not nerfed last patch, it was fixed … a teleport with no range limit ? lol

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Posted by: BobbyT.7192

BobbyT.7192

I wonder if your still able to teleport while stun, it’s still in instant cast skill and there is nothing in the patch notes suggesting otherwise.
And like other non-stun breaking instant cast teleports (steal, phase retreat) your still able get out of harms way, it just your still stun. All this will really do is slow down the thief from coming back.

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Posted by: frans.8092

frans.8092

It isn’t a true stun breaker but it is still an instant cast teleport. So you’ll be stunned for all 1/4 of a second but you’ll be 1200 units away from the guy who’s trying to jam a sword down your throat.

No, you will not be 1200 away, it’s very rare to use the skill chain at full range during actual combat. It has limited use beyond stun-breaker, you can avoid some melee or AoE damage, but channeled attacks will still hit.

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Posted by: Master of Timespace.2548

Master of Timespace.2548

People threatening to delete their characters because of made up patch notes. Priceless.

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

Daecollo.9578

Honestly, they should lower the initiative of IS to 1, and SR to 2.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

People threatening to delete their characters because of made up patch notes. Priceless.

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Posted by: Master of Timespace.2548

Master of Timespace.2548

People threatening to delete their characters because of made up patch notes. Priceless.

Denying their falsity doesn’t make them true. (Hmm why I feel irony somewhere.. )

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

Daecollo.9578

The notes seem 3 weeks old.

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Posted by: Gwalchgwn.1659

Gwalchgwn.1659

People threatening to delete their characters because of made up patch notes. Priceless.

Denying their falsity doesn’t make them true. (Hmm why I feel irony somewhere.. )

No I mean, every time I hear someone say they’ll delete their character, it makes me laugh.
I have no comment on false or true, don’t rly mind if those were the updates rly.

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Posted by: bobross.5034

bobross.5034

mesmers use phase retreat as the new shadow return is described. It’s not as useful as blink (an actual stunbreaker), but it does allow mesmers to effectively protect themselves somewhat when stunned.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

anyone else realize that shadow return on IS is the only reason people dont have to play stealth? of fact is that stealth causes blindness and drops 2 conditions in 3 seconds….. without a stun break now we have to play stealth in the build to have the survivability back up to a playable build….which means it wont be as viable in spvp due to stealth. s/d is basically a backup weaponset for wvw due to the shortening range of SR down to 1200 from infinite….which really affects nothing other than our ability to not play invis :P. s/d is also good in spvp as a main set due to the ability to play it and not be stun owned by other players. As you are aware s/d is ONLY a zerk"ish" weapson set as its extremely slow and has no condition damage capacity at all … no bleed no poison no burn no confusion. so you take away its defensive capabilities and you are left with a very very very VERRRRRY risky build that will die in a 2 v 1 everytime now where as it atleast had a chance to stay alive before. usually 15k is the highest you will run s/d with and usually 0 toughness on your armor/accs as it drops damage way too much.

TL:DR = Lose the defensive stun break and you need to add in stealth which ruins the build in spvp. S/D is strictly a zerkish weaponset and now your have a higher chance of being killed. its enough to make it arguably not worth playing.

I doubt these patch notes are real as nobody is complaining about most of these nerfs. just some silly kitten crap really!