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Posted by: Decked.8274

Decked.8274

Here’s the suggestion:
– Replace Engineer’s stolen skill Throw Gunk with Throw Net
– Replace Elementalist’s stolen skill Ice Shard Stab with Use Staff

These 2 skills have nothing to do with their professions and are weak compared to other professions’ stolen skills that’s why I think they should be replaced, your opinion?

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Posted by: Pavel.8531

Pavel.8531

I am happy, that not only I hate stealing from eles and especially engis. And yeah, the net and staff look much better.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

Here’s the suggestion:
– Replace Engineer’s stolen skill Throw Gunk with Throw Net

No thank you. The gunk gives Chaos Armor.

- Replace Elementalist’s stolen skill Ice Shard Stab with Use Staff

No thank you. 10s Chilled against an Elementalist is perfect as is.

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Posted by: Folk.2093

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honestly alot of the steal skills are pretty meh; except for mesmer, love all those boons.

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

I would have to agree with Sir Vincent, though the only thing I don’t like about the Ele item is its melee. Oh if I could throw that!

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

I would have to agree with Sir Vincent, though the only thing I don’t like about the Ele item is its melee. Oh if I could throw that!

I typically use what I’ve stolen ASAP. I can’t imagine myself holding unto those gunks, whatever it is, for too long.

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Posted by: Decked.8274

Decked.8274

No thank you. The gunk gives Chaos Armor.

Chaos Armor has NOTHING to do with Engineers.

though the only thing I don’t like about the Ele item is its melee. Oh if I could throw that!

You can throw it, it’s a ranged attack, look in the description again :P

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

though the only thing I don’t like about the Ele item is its melee. Oh if I could throw that!

You can throw it, it’s a ranged attack, look in the description again :P

Not the ele one, Ice Shard Stab it only has a 170 range. If your talking about throw gunk, then yes I knew that :-)

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Posted by: Decked.8274

Decked.8274

Nevermind, I tough you were talking about Use Staff.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

No thank you. The gunk gives Chaos Armor.

Chaos Armor has NOTHING to do with Engineers.

err?

The connection is between the gunk and the Eng.

Once used, the connection is between the gunk and the combo field.

Chaos armor’s connection is between the combo field and the combo finisher.

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Posted by: TheKillerAngel.3596

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No thank you. The gunk gives Chaos Armor.

Chaos Armor has NOTHING to do with Engineers.

err?

The connection is between the gunk and the Eng.

Once used, the connection is between the gunk and the combo field.

Chaos armor’s connection is between the combo field and the combo finisher.

He means thematically, engineers cannot summon ethereal fields, which are used to generate chaos armor. That’s part of the mesmer’s class identity.

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Posted by: Decked.8274

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The connection is between the gunk and the Eng.

There is no connection between the gunk and the engineer.
Do you usually see engineers throwing gunk? I dont.
Do you see them throwing nets? Yes, Net Shot / Net Wall

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

technically I think the connection was meant to be that the gunk is basically the grease, oil and all the other dirt that an engineer would have from constructing, add to that the effect of the gunk which is a series random conditions over time which is basically what a pistol pistol engineer does…

The links tenuous at best but I quite like the gunk

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Posted by: Maugetarr.6823

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I’d like to see the Engi give you overcharged shot like you get from some PvE mobs. The you could overcharged shot>infiltrators signet for some control.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

No thank you. The gunk gives Chaos Armor.

Chaos Armor has NOTHING to do with Engineers.

err?

The connection is between the gunk and the Eng.

Once used, the connection is between the gunk and the combo field.

Chaos armor’s connection is between the combo field and the combo finisher.

He means thematically, engineers cannot summon ethereal fields, which are used to generate chaos armor. That’s part of the mesmer’s class identity.

But Eng is not the one summoning the ethereal field, the combination of the gunk and finisher is.

The connection is between the gunk and the Eng.

There is no connection between the gunk and the engineer.
Do you usually see engineers throwing gunk? I dont.
Do you see them throwing nets? Yes, Net Shot / Net Wall

From the dictionary:

gunk
: filthy, sticky, or greasy matter

example
The engine was all full of gunk.

Link: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gunk

As you can see, there is a connection. But why would a combo field give a Chaos Armor, I have no idea — Anet has to answer that.

Regardless of the logic behind it, I like the chaos armor.

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

Im guessing because of the chaotic nature of a field that gives randomize conditions every second

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Posted by: Grimwolf.7163

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I’d like to see the Engi give you overcharged shot like you get from some PvE mobs. The you could overcharged shot>infiltrators signet for some control.

Ohhhh, now that would be awesome. Throw Net would be really useful as well. I’d prefer either one.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

I’d like to see the Engi give you overcharged shot like you get from some PvE mobs. The you could overcharged shot>infiltrators signet for some control.

Ohhhh, now that would be awesome. Throw Net would be really useful as well. I’d prefer either one.

It can be random from a list of items. It’d be also nice to steal Elixirs and Grenades.

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Posted by: Aleth.9630

Aleth.9630

- Replace Elementalist’s stolen skill Ice Shard Stab with Use Staff

Oh dear god, NO!
Use Staff is an RNG skill, and those a kitten.

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Posted by: Frenk.5917

Frenk.5917

I like ice shard. If the ele just switched from water to another attunement he is chilled for 10 seconds, meaning you just broke his skills rotation and he’s slower.

Throw gunk is just.. random. It can be annoying though, with stealth and revealed.

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