there is a lot of skill depth and situation awarness in evade spam xD
if they did fix it, it would be a bug fix and not nerf if anything :P
If you really think D/P Panic strike meta is harder to play than S/D you’re delusional. Some prefer D/P, some S/D, depending on their prefered playstyle, but let’s not forget that D/P already overshines S/D. Not gonna mention how much panic strike gets carried through passive procs.
They could fix it, sure, but then they’ll also have to fix the shadow shot into backstab spam from D/P and the BP into heartseeker port proccing stealth etc. as they’re prolly not intended either, or we just leave things as they are and not completly ruin two weaponsets.
I don’t get the whine here, these weaponsets have some skill depth and knowing these tricks and how to use them is a part of being a skilled player, why do you want to see this being taken away? It’s basically the same with Mesmer GS.
Do you by any chance have any analogies for thieves and palm trees?
“Palm trees grow in tropical climates, along sea shores. They grow in these areas because they are designed to resist/endure fierce tropical storms, such as hurricanes. The flexibility of their trunks allow them to bend with fierce winds without snapping and braking off”.
Thieves grow in critical climates, along trait lines. They grow in these areas because they are designed to resist/endure fierce critical storms., such as bursts.
The flexibility of their creation allow them to counter fierce attacks without risk and exposure
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Do you by any chance have any analogies for thieves and palm trees?
“Palm trees grow in tropical climates, along sea shores. They grow in these areas because they are designed to resist/endure fierce tropical storms, such as hurricanes. The flexibility of their trunks allow them to bend with fierce winds without snapping and braking off”.
Thieves grow in critical climates, along trait lines. They grow in these areas because they are designed to resist/endure fierce critical storms., such as bursts.
The flexibility of their creation allow them to counter fierce attacks without risk and exposure
That’s pretty good. Thanks.
Though, this guy had a more philosophical approach to it:
He answered, “look this is all we can do, so get over it”
So…….
Isn’t this the same way Arena.net look at thief class?
Not even close. To the tree trimmer, it is profitable for them to come back several times a year to trim the tree. There is no profit on “trimming” the Thieves because the nerfs we received is similar to “plucking out the tree.”
no
when you pluck out the tree, you pluck their roots
no matter what trimming (nerfs) thieves get, they are still OP?
like the tree branches; they’ll keep growing.
why not just redesign the thief root and start over?
why not just plant a new tree that doesn’t grow to much?
why not just redesign a thief that would not be OP?
Do you by any chance have any analogies for thieves and palm trees?
“Palm trees grow in tropical climates, along sea shores. They grow in these areas because they are designed to resist/endure fierce tropical storms, such as hurricanes. The flexibility of their trunks allow them to bend with fierce winds without snapping and braking off”.
Thieves grow in critical climates, along trait lines. They grow in these areas because they are designed to resist/endure fierce critical storms., such as bursts.
The flexibility of their creation allow them to counter fierce attacks without risk and exposure
That’s pretty good. Thanks.
Though, this guy had a more philosophical approach to it:
He answered, “look this is all we can do, so get over it”
So…….
Isn’t this the same way Arena.net look at thief class?
Not even close. To the tree trimmer, it is profitable for them to come back several times a year to trim the tree. There is no profit on “trimming” the Thieves because the nerfs we received is similar to “plucking out the tree.”
no
when you pluck out the tree, you pluck their roots
no matter what trimming (nerfs) thieves get, they are still OP?
like the tree branches; they’ll keep growing.
why not just redesign the thief root and start over?
why not just plant a new tree that doesn’t grow to much?
why not just redesign a thief that would not be OP?
wouldn’t that make sense?
wouldn’t you agree?
He had some brilliant, brilliant posts…
Thank You!
You are correct! Burnfall did had some very brilliant posts.
" Solutions To A Problem Can Only Be Found, When You Want To Get Rid Of It "
Ankur
there is a lot of skill depth and situation awarness in evade spam xD
if they did fix it, it would be a bug fix and not nerf if anything :P
If you really think D/P Panic strike meta is harder to play than S/D you’re delusional. Some prefer D/P, some S/D, depending on their prefered playstyle, but let’s not forget that D/P already overshines S/D. Not gonna mention how much panic strike gets carried through passive procs.
They could fix it, sure, but then they’ll also have to fix the shadow shot into backstab spam from D/P and the BP into heartseeker port proccing stealth etc. as they’re prolly not intended either, or we just leave things as they are and not completly ruin two weaponsets.
I don’t get the whine here, these weaponsets have some skill depth and knowing these tricks and how to use them is a part of being a skilled player, why do you want to see this being taken away? It’s basically the same with Mesmer GS.
Where is anything about panic strike or dp in my post? Or anything about dp vs sd in general?
If you really want my opinion on that (althrough i hate opening that can of worms): d/p and s/d fill bit different roles/playstyle imo, each has it’s place…. as far as post from before, i just found it comical to say there is depth in sd, considering most sd players (at least the ones i faced, besides sizer duhh) just spam evades mindlessly untill they are out of ini/dodges and then die if they face someone with bit more brain… the only issue evade spam does carry those players to certain extend (of course nowhere at levels of old turret engi lol). Certanly, my opinion is biased, but i do think d/p offers more utility and has more multiuses for spells thus higher skill cap/more depth (if we gonna talk about it)… don’t get me wrong, i am not saying that d/p is harder to play, but i think really good player can do a lot more with it than with s/d.
I agree shadow shot into backstab is unintentional and probably should be fixed; not sure what you mean under bp +hs + port combo, if it is what i am thinking, then it is working as intended, imo.
What OP posted is a bug and i am pretty sure is unintentional; you may disagree but no need to flame.
Darksyze, if you already “no longer laugh at this joke profession” would you mind to just shush entirely? All I see from you is posts that make absolutely no sense at all, they don’t appeal to reason and they add nothing at all to any of the discussions you posted on.
So do yourself a favour and us a favour and just stop visiting this part of the forums?
I’m sure you could spend your time in a better way.
You got to realize that even if these “bugs and exploits”, or “hacks” even (lol?) were to be removed, we could still do the exact same things but with a minor delay or in a different form, right? Besides, ArenaNet wouldn’t have the slightest benefit in removing these things because of the simple fact that they do add more depth to their game wether it’s intended or not. Otherwise we could also qq about how Eles can swap attunement while channeling and other simple stuff like that.
If you do manage to cook up an opinion or have something useful to add to the discussion(s), then feel free to! Otherwise I’d highly recommend and encourage you to stop making a fool out of yourself.
Actually, I wasn’t even attempting to flame anybody, didn’t know people are so thin skinned in here as I’m used to much worse.
See, you’re just as biased towards S/D as I am towards D/P. I could argue your opinion, but thats not my point and doesn’t lead anywhere. My point is that it would be a bad idea to take something away from a weaponset that is argueably already worse than D/P and obviously has less skill depth/tricks to it. It just dumbs down the weaponset even more and would need some tricks like the shadowshot into backstab to be fixed aswell.
While the use or abuse of these things may not be intentional, they add depth to the game and subsequently make each class harder to master. I dunno about you, but I’d say thats a good thing and therefore I wouldn’t want the Infil spam or shadowshot trick to be nerfed or fixed. They’re good for high level PvP after all.
