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Posted by: Ario.8964

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Like the title says I have decided to waste time making a build with an impressive amount of crit chance and decided to post it for the enjoyment of others so… enjoy

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZEQNAoYVlsMp0pdPxwJ0PNxOBtdAq9A4+EdoEd1CA-T1BBABS8EAA4UAslyPD1HU0+DVq+jkKBDAgAsz6sO3Zgje0je0je025R35R35RLFwoCjA-w

As you can see the build is light on health but armor wise its quite tanky for a thief although the lack of power mi8ght be a little tough to deal with.

Note: This is not a serious build, I just wanted to see what I could put together with random matching and get some feedback on how I could potentially make this a serious build with more viability.

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Posted by: AlCojester.4316

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This is definitely an interesting build. I wish I had the gold to try something like this though! I’m no thief guru but I would swap out the side strike trait for signets of power and invest 2 points into DA to compensate the lack of power. I don’t think you’d need the extra 7% from side strike as you already have 100%. You could probably take out the accuracy sigil and slot in force/air and keep side strike if you want, while still keeping 100% crit chance if you can position yourself well. Anyways that’s my take on this, I will definitely keep this in mind though

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Posted by: Ario.8964

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Good thought about the sigil swap. that hadn’t occurred to me (neither did changing the traits because I forgot I had the equipped lol) what I was worried about is the hp, if its for d/d is that a safe amount of health? I know guard stacks in wvw will fix that but when you don’t have them is that too low to be able to potentially last in a fight? Thanks for the tips!

Edit: I did the changes, now its even stronger
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZEQNAoYVlsMp0pdPxwJ0PNxOBtdAq9A4+EdoEd1CA-T1BFABC8EAWS5nd6DqZ/BAOFAFq+jgKBDAgAsz6sO3Zgje0je0je025R35R35RLFwoCjA-w

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Posted by: Reikou.7068

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the build is kind of begging to use “Invigorating precision”

Reikou/Reira/Iroha/Sengiku/Rinoka/Kuruse/Sakuho/Kinae/Yuzusa/Kikurin/Otoha/Hasue/Mioko
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Posted by: Ario.8964

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I find invigorating precision very underwhelming. It needs a buff hard core before anyone will consider using it.

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Posted by: AlCojester.4316

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Tbh, investing the 2 points into DA and getting the mug trait is definitely much more rewarding. you lose 1k health, but with 2.7k armour and the added 100 power together with good knowledge of matchups, this build could be deadly If you really really really want more health, then by all means go for it! I would use power of inertia though instead of descent of shadows for the reason I said before, which was to compensate the lack of power.

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Posted by: Ario.8964

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Yeah, again I kinda just threw this together randomly and didn’t put a ton of though into the traits (if that hasn’t been made obvious )

So you think something like this?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZEQNAoYVlsMp0pdPxwJ0PNBNBt9DGeE4uGrYGaFAA-T1BFABC8EAWS5nd6DqZ/BAOFAFq+jgKBDAgAsz2sOvZgje0je0je025R35R35RLFwoCjA-w

You could also do some changes in sigils, weps, and armour to get more health and a little more power but end up sacrificing air sigil.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZEQNAoYVlsMp0pdPxwJ0PNBNBt9DGeE4uGrYGaFAA-TVCBAB7pD4SVI2S5nhaDqU9FJeCAAcKAKa/BJVCGAABYn1ZduzAH9oH9oH9otzjuzjuzjWKgRFGB-w

Personally I prefer to have the air sigil, but this (meaning ^ that one) is for people who want that little extra hp and don’t care about the sigil

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Posted by: AlCojester.4316

AlCojester.4316

The second build looks really nice! But I agree with you there, I would rather have the air sigil than an extra 1k health. The extra burst is just too good to give up. It doesn’t matter anyway because applied fortitude stacks and world bonuses would bring it to at least 16k+. This was a nice discussion, I’ll be sure to message you in-game sometime and see if we could make this build viable

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Posted by: danisatan.5834

danisatan.5834

WOW it interesting . Can you post a clip for this build ? i want to see how 100% cri work.

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Posted by: Ario.8964

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I actually don’t have this build made yet. I’m low on funds and cant really afford to do a gear switch at the time. This was a completely theoretical build but if I can find a way to get footage for it I’ll make sure it ends up here. If anyone knows a person whose willing to test builds and make clips with it then that’d be a big help too

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Posted by: SlitheSlivier.1908

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If someone could comment on what I’m about to say to let me know if it is a good idea or show my my error in thought, that’d be great.

I think you should reduce your total critical chance to 80 and then try to get fury for a good portion of the time. This could maybe allow you to get more power and vitality

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Posted by: TrOtskY.5927

TrOtskY.5927

If someone could comment on what I’m about to say to let me know if it is a good idea or show my my error in thought, that’d be great.

I think you should reduce your total critical chance to 80 and then try to get fury for a good portion of the time. This could maybe allow you to get more power and vitality

This is actually an important point with regards to this build, however the stat combos got me excited, and as a PVP S/D player I wanted to see what I could fiddle with to get some scary numbers. Unfortunately the lack of certain stat combos make it difficult, so after a lot of fiddling I got some numbers similar to the OP minus a significant amount of crit percentage. Nevermind, the perma fury from the steal + the interrupts, dazes and boons it gives you, plus perma might (with strength rune) means that the total dps of this build is pretty nutty whilst still being way to tanky for what it should be.

Firstly, I dropped the entire critical strikes line, and replaced with the trickery line. OP steal activated ^^
I realised that making a thief this tanky without going into shadow arts that can still crit at a stupid high rate WHILST maintaining trickery is basically impossible, so I gave in there.
Next I dropped a lot of the gear and just began to randomly fiddle with different combos. By the end, I have this

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZEQNAsYVlsMp0pdPxwJ0PNBNRxdNsCzg3hxXshaFAA-TVCFABHqeRJ7PskSP70HMpKKAcKAQSZgAPBABVCGAABYn1ZduzAH9oH9oH9otzjuzjuzjWKgRFGB-w

It’s looking pretty nice, with;
-2051 Power, 62% crit rate (82% with near perma fury from stealing)
-180% crit damage (this wants to be a little higher imo but the constant critting you will be doing should mean that this won’t matter too much)
-13K HP and 2.6K armour.

Personally, I would be willing to drop even more precision, to around 55%, so that with fury I am still hitting a 3/4 crit rate, simply by dropping the Assassin Weapons for Valkyrie (giving us 2100 power and 14.5K HP). But I guess the more we move away from that the more we move away from concept.

Note that this modified build is wayyy more fitting for s/d than d/p, but that it also offers way more might and boon stacking.

Anyway thanks mr OP for the inspiration, gonna save up and try this out.

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Posted by: Ario.8964

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Thanks for all the support guys! This is awesome Trotsky, I think your idea is interesting, the only reason I am not lowering the crit chance is cause my purpose was to design a build that always crits. I completely understand your reasoning but I want to explore the idea that I laid out first to see what results are possible with this setup. Also, because this is a d/d build it would be better suited with crit strikes over trickery, but in an s/d adaption for the build I would say 100% go trickery over crit strikes as the weapon set is benefited more with trickery. I hope I made sense there, I got a little excited typing

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