Khalif's Condition Thief build

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Posted by: Khalif.2076

Khalif.2076

now people can stop QQ about HS spam.

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Posted by: Vexus.5423

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Surprised no one responded yet. I watched the video; I’d recommend showing more ‘action’ honestly but I did like the explanations.

I like that going Condition damage means you’re stacking vitality and toughness in terms of traits.

Conditions are pretty good… I’d actually say your build is more for PvE. I know that’s odd, but the raw damage regardless of being in melee range or not is key to sustained DPS.

I thought of trying it out for WvW, but then realized most people have a condition removal. As thief, I’d wipe the bleeds with the stealth heal. Mind you, it’s stacking good damage just before that, but missing out on 8-10k damage with wiping it clean. Count on dodges for a couple of those Death Blossoms, and it’s not -as powerful- as it seems. I also don’t want to do that on the few classes that can give their conditions to their enemies (Necromancer at least).

Everyone has a different style which is awesome.

One utility critique; I see the Scorpion Wire and know you want it to pull targets back into Caltrops and back into range. But for actual fights it is very gimmicky in that you have so many other ways of getting to the enemy instead. If I were you, I’d switch out for poison, as at least then someone has less a chance of negating all your damage with a condition removal. I love the Scorpion Wire, but I usually just switch to it for specific cases; rarely do I ever need it right then and there. Poison would give you a huge DPS increase.

Please note I really like the build. It’s awesome. Groups of players where you’re hitting multiple people… evading attacks left and right… crazy AOE “in-the-mix” damage. You can go into a large WvW group and destroy their lines from within, then Dagger Storm out (I do this already without the conditions – thus not as effective). You have the toughness and vitality to survive that, and the damage to make them all freak out. Nothing like seeing 10 people ticking away damage while you whirl back to your own group. Was really hoping you were going to show multiple targets when you ran to the AOE training area

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Khalif.2076

Surprised no one responded yet. I watched the video; I’d recommend showing more ‘action’ honestly but I did like the explanations.

I like that going Condition damage means you’re stacking vitality and toughness in terms of traits.

Conditions are pretty good… I’d actually say your build is more for PvE. I know that’s odd, but the raw damage regardless of being in melee range or not is key to sustained DPS.

I thought of trying it out for WvW, but then realized most people have a condition removal. As thief, I’d wipe the bleeds with the stealth heal. Mind you, it’s stacking good damage just before that, but missing out on 8-10k damage with wiping it clean. Count on dodges for a couple of those Death Blossoms, and it’s not -as powerful- as it seems. I also don’t want to do that on the few classes that can give their conditions to their enemies (Necromancer at least).

Everyone has a different style which is awesome.

One utility critique; I see the Scorpion Wire and know you want it to pull targets back into Caltrops and back into range. But for actual fights it is very gimmicky in that you have so many other ways of getting to the enemy instead. If I were you, I’d switch out for poison, as at least then someone has less a chance of negating all your damage with a condition removal. I love the Scorpion Wire, but I usually just switch to it for specific cases; rarely do I ever need it right then and there. Poison would give you a huge DPS increase.

Please note I really like the build. It’s awesome. Groups of players where you’re hitting multiple people… evading attacks left and right… crazy AOE “in-the-mix” damage. You can go into a large WvW group and destroy their lines from within, then Dagger Storm out (I do this already without the conditions – thus not as effective). You have the toughness and vitality to survive that, and the damage to make them all freak out. Nothing like seeing 10 people ticking away damage while you whirl back to your own group. Was really hoping you were going to show multiple targets when you ran to the AOE training area

thanks.

i didn’t show that much action because this is version 3, and their were good deal of other bleed videos on my channel that i thought it would be Over kill to show more.

as for scorp, its less about getting to your target, than it is about getting your target onto your caltrops. (especially with the 1 sec KD in SW)

as for poison, its not needed. due to the large stack of bleed + regular damage, your target will die in about 15 secs… poison full duration is 30secs, so 15secs of poison is wasted.

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Posted by: Khalif.2076

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shameless bump for the newer guys to see…sorry.