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Posted by: MLGKorno.5419

MLGKorno.5419

I wasn’t going to post it but there’s probably some things people can learn from watching this video. Magic Toker (“Florida Boy Dustin”) was looking for duels in my dueling server and after a heated conversation, He invited to his private arena for some mirror duels.
Video is uncut from start to finish and runs for slightly over 30 minutes.

Basically like the video description says:

Some late night sleep deprivation mirror SD 20066 duels against Toker.

Personal observations from the fights:

Toker’s Strengths:
-Map knowledge (LOS)
-Experience and knowledge of class
-Stealing between evade frames
-Cooldowns

Weaknesses:
-Evasion mechanics
-Usually uses steal right after acquired

My own Strengths:
-Mechanics
-Stealing between evade frames
-Dodging steal attempts
-Prediction (Intuition)
-Experience and knowledge of class
-Cooldowns

Weaknesses:
-Map LOS
-Overconfident at times

Points in the video:

At around 4:30, toker notices he had been running 2/6/0/0/6 and switches to 2/0/0/6/6. From approximately 4:39 onwards, duels in the same build occur.

It was fun and good practise and I would do more if he asks. Don’t be shy about commenting and constructive discussion. Hope I don’t offend him by uploading it ^^

Cheers,
-Kronos

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Posted by: Chris McSwag.4683

Chris McSwag.4683

Impressive, and very nice fights!
Im still learning alot of what/when/how regarding thief and videos like these certainly help.
GJ!

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Posted by: Jrunyon.3012

Jrunyon.3012

Definitely an insightful video, thanks for the upload.

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Posted by: Eloid.4569

Eloid.4569

He going 2/6/0/0/6 ^^

2/0/0/6/6 > 2/6/0/0/6 maybe?

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Posted by: NOM.9712

NOM.9712

He going 2/6/0/0/6 ^^

2/0/0/6/6 > 2/6/0/0/6 maybe?

No, It seems that Toker was only accidentally on 26006 switches to 20066 quickly after around 4 minutes and 30 seconds as kronos pointed out in his post (Look at the swiftness and might from dodging)

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Posted by: Eloid.4569

Eloid.4569

He going 2/6/0/0/6 ^^

2/0/0/6/6 > 2/6/0/0/6 maybe?

No, It seems that Toker was only accidentally on 26006 switches to 20066 quickly after around 4 minutes and 30 seconds as kronos pointed out in his post (Look at the swiftness and might from dodging)

yeah! my bad

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Posted by: Xtinct.7031

Xtinct.7031

great usage of the short bow kronos,

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Posted by: Woaden.9425

Woaden.9425

Nice job and gf’s

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Posted by: Helly.2597

Helly.2597

kitten that little spot around 8:30 for the no valid path on stealth giving Toker time to get cds back.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

Are you playing in the tournament Krono? If so, what team?

I like your play style…I might just watch you more.

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Posted by: CaptainShrimps.9143

CaptainShrimps.9143

Good stuff Kronos! Nice to see you doing well despite being away for two weeks and jet lagged :^)

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Posted by: Oslaf Beinir.5842

Oslaf Beinir.5842

thanks for sharing

gotta l2SB and this was a nice demonstration

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Posted by: Lettuce.2945

Lettuce.2945

That LoS spot when your steal had invalid path was nice. takes note for future reference/use

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Posted by: Gabriell.4856

Gabriell.4856

thanks for sharing

gotta l2SB and this was a nice demonstration

Pretty much this. I didn’t see Toker use SB that much which really hurt him.

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Posted by: Mordecai.6318

Mordecai.6318

I wasn’t going to post it but I’ve been trying to lose my reputation of running full soldiers in WvW and wanted some notoriety from dueling a “famous” thief who’s better in team fights than duels on an old meta spec so people can learn from something that’s already not good enough to compete and speculated to be even worse in a few months.

Obviously this format worked the last time with Caed. I wonder if lettuce will appear in round 2!

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Posted by: Gabriell.4856

Gabriell.4856

I wasn’t going to post it but I’ve been trying to lose my reputation of running full soldiers in WvW and wanted some notoriety from dueling a “famous” thief who’s better in team fights than duels on an old meta spec so people can learn from something that’s already not good enough to compete and speculated to be even worse in a few months.

Obviously this format worked the last time with Caed. I wonder if lettuce will appear in round 2!

If you know Toker, he been running 2/0/06/6 for a while. So yeah…you’re post is pointless.

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Posted by: Mordecai.6318

Mordecai.6318

I wasn’t going to post it but I’ve been trying to lose my reputation of running full soldiers in WvW and wanted some notoriety from dueling a “famous” thief who’s better in team fights than duels on an old meta spec so people can learn from something that’s already not good enough to compete and speculated to be even worse in a few months.

Obviously this format worked the last time with Caed. I wonder if lettuce will appear in round 2!

If you know Toker, he been running 2/0/06/6 for a while. So yeah…you’re post is pointless.

If you knew how to read/comprehend/knew anything, you’d know that A.) Toker hasn’t played that spec in months due to the current meta and B.) I wasn’t implying that he doesnt know the spec, but that the spec is borderline useless and rumored to be even weaker after HoT is released with the traitline changes. And C.) This is a post fishing for compliments over the most irrelevant chance driven encounters that hold no weight in practically every facet of the game.

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Posted by: official.7362

official.7362

ill put 100g u cant beat me toker in a duel u dont have to pay me if i win

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Posted by: Fhaeris.9237

Fhaeris.9237

Impressive fights. Sigh, I’ll never be able to play like that.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

SB camp….meh

The S/D play was nice to watch tho

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Posted by: Elxdark.9702

Elxdark.9702

Don’t want to be a jerk or something but toker plays once a week only for go4 lol.

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Posted by: NOM.9712

NOM.9712

I can’t play SD beyond a laughable level so I’m just going to browse the forums and post inflammatory comments fueled by jealousy. Also, I’m still not over how I lost more than a year ago while on SA carrion PD in that 1v1 tournament vs Kronos. Stealthing to clear my conditions is just aids.

Now…About the formatting – You do realize Kronos is mocking caed, right?

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Posted by: theoutsider.7849

theoutsider.7849

RIP Random dodgespam in HoT. kitten Feline Grace
How anyone can consider this playstyle enjoyable is beyond me

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Posted by: cyyrix.6105

cyyrix.6105

This post embodies everything that I love about the stereotypical thief personality. Just two thieves:

  • rng-ing themselves to death in a made up game mode
  • playing mirror builds because that’s somehow a better differentiator of skill
  • making passive aggressive observations about the other’s play

Best of all, it’s all done on top of the truckload of salt that is copy-pasting a prior post’s template that did the exact same thing. OP’s post is a work of art.

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Posted by: Relek.7231

Relek.7231

This post embodies everything that I love about the stereotypical thief personality. Just two thieves:

  • rng-ing themselves to death in a made up game mode
  • playing mirror builds because that’s somehow a better differentiator of skill
  • making passive aggressive observations about the other’s play

Best of all, it’s all done on top of the truckload of salt that is copy-pasting a prior post’s template that did the exact same thing. OP’s post is a work of art.

yeah because kronos couldn’t have been mocking caed right? also i’d say playing mirror spec on the class they are best at is the best “differentiator” of skill

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Posted by: darres.8203

darres.8203

i thought toker was a dp thief main?

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Posted by: Mordecai.6318

Mordecai.6318

I can’t play SD beyond a laughable level so I’m just going to browse the forums and post inflammatory comments fueled by jealousy. Also, I’m still not over how I lost more than a year ago while on SA carrion PD in that 1v1 tournament vs Kronos. Stealthing to clear my conditions is just aids.

Now…About the formatting – You do realize Kronos is mocking caed, right?

This is my last response before this turns into a serious kittening contest.

I play sword just fine (just dont prefer it) and did so in GvG for over a year with a guild that beat the best NA/EU. Since when is S/D the threshold for which we gauge skill?

It took kronos 45 minutes and a change in rules that removed virtually every defensive capability I had running P/D to beat me on a god awful spec that I fought Nex on for over an hour and was handed a victory because of how useless it was. And of course it was his patented Soldiers D/P that has zero intent of doing damage, but simply outlasting the opponent until they give up or make a mistake. But thanks for thinking that made up game modes and a fight that occurred over a year ago holds any merit.

But by your own logic I should see you talking about how the night before the tournament I won 3-0 in sanctum on mirror d/p SA so badly that Snuffles and Co. even berated him.

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Posted by: NOM.9712

NOM.9712

I can’t play SD beyond a laughable level so I’m just going to browse the forums and post inflammatory comments fueled by jealousy. Also, I’m still not over how I lost more than a year ago while on SA carrion PD in that 1v1 tournament vs Kronos. Stealthing to clear my conditions is just aids.

Now…About the formatting – You do realize Kronos is mocking caed, right?

This is my last response before this turns into a serious kittening contest.

I play sword just fine (just dont prefer it) and did so in GvG for over a year with a guild that beat the best NA/EU. Since when is S/D the threshold for which we gauge skill?

It took kronos 45 minutes and a change in rules that removed virtually every defensive capability I had running P/D to beat me on a god awful spec that I fought Nex on for over an hour and was handed a victory because of how useless it was. And of course it was his patented Soldiers D/P that has zero intent of doing damage, but simply outlasting the opponent until they give up or make a mistake. But thanks for thinking that made up game modes and a fight that occurred over a year ago holds any merit.

But by your own logic I should see you talking about how the night before the tournament I won 3-0 in sanctum on mirror d/p SA so badly that Snuffles and Co. even berated him.

I chuckled: You played SD in WvW to beat the best WvWers NA/EU! What an achievement!

Last time I checked, it was harder to fight carrion condi with PVT than with the PvP Berserker’s amulet.

We don’t need to wait for you to admit it because you probably won’t: Everyone who watched back then can tell that the only reason you’d have popped out of nowhere to reply to OP’s thread is that you’re kittenhurt. Starting from all the OS duels leading up to the tournament, evidently so because that duel in OS you talk about went the other way around.

I’d obviously like to know if you have anything positive to contribute but otherwise, go back to the WVW forums. You seem to think GvGs make you an actual good player, but the truth is that your understanding of the game is frankly limited in the extreme and you are entertaining yourselves with a fantasy rulebook that’s made entirely of your own doing. It has no sanction or approval from the devs. Just grow up already.

Dryseril
P/P / P/S Engi

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