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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Hey guys
If you want to skip the story of my life let me give you a resume of what’s the topic about. D/P 2/6/0/0/6 Build for WvW and sPvP, what’s your thoughts and advice?

So a while a go I tried to go back to my Thief. Since then y main 2 objectives, getting better at PvP with it and get Champion Shadow. Champion Shadow is almost done, less the 50 wins away, so you would think I’m getting better at PvP. Well I am but I am with a spec that I don’t enjoy the fullest from all the Thief spets, since I’m playing S/D in sPvP and what I really enjoy with Thief are the Daggers and playing S/D is getting boring for me. Also playing so much S/D I don’t have been training D/D or D/P that much in WvW and I’ve been having my kitten kicked there. This is leaving the class relly not enjoyable, class thta I know if I stop playing now I will most likely get back to it, get my kitten kicked hard again and leave it, and so on and on, because this is what the class has been for me since I basicly made it.

So I decided to try this: the same spec in sPvP and WvW (trait and weapon wise). Now I know D/D isn’t acceptable in sPvP, I don’t accept it my self so this leaves us with D/P.

I want to try D/P 2/6/0/0/6 in both sPvP and WvW. This behing said and after telling my story of how I really need to improve my gameplay with Thief, I here seaking advice.

WvW build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoaVl0Mp0pdPx8J8PNBNBt9EGeI8OMfpMaFAA-TlCEwAEOBAbVCyUJkhHBgUlPd0Gkb/h26AAcEAcp+TAAEgbGAYn7MIFwDLAA-w

sPvP build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoaVl0Mp0pdPxyJ8PNBNBt9EGeI8OMfpMaFAA-TZBEwAGeEAAOCAZLDQ4EAcf/BA

(Parrot’s OP)

1 – What do you think about the WvW build?
2 – What do you think about the sPvP build?
3 – What’s your advice about this spec/play style?
4 – I’m on Gandara, and we are going to play in the Gold league next season. Idk how it’s going to be when season comes but right now I feel like Gold League might be impossible to roam, at least alone (my guild doesn’t roam and I don’t handle zergs very well). Everytime I see someone he/she is not alone, and when I see they most likely are going in their way to the zerg, there are not that muc roaming in this tier I feel. Should I still try to get better here, since it’s way more challenging but also more boring to find a fight that I know I might have a chance or should I move to a lower population server/Bronze league server?

I think this covers my doubts for now, hope you guys can help me

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Posted by: Domey.9804

Domey.9804

For wvw id go full zerk with that spec.
I personally prefer 2/0/6/0/6 which is less bursty but 4000x more sustain.
If you Solo roam you Dont need Sbow, take s/d as secondary Set. Aim for 50%crit Chance via Stacks and food, 15k HP and 2,5 armor. This build is very fun to play, good sustain, can kill everything.

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Posted by: coverdale.8903

coverdale.8903

I use D/P 2 6 0 0 6 in both wvw and spvp and it works well for me. Here is my build

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoaVlsMp0pVOx7J8PNBNhs9jJR8O83yaFA-TVCEwAEOBAbVCyU5nhHBAL1fwt/QbdAd0GA4IAEAAB4mBAIFwALjA-w

A few points to note:

-Use hide in shadows since the its the only condi clear you have. You shouldn’t be using shadowstep for clearing conditions. Also withdraw when poisoned makes it quite useless imo

-Rather take infiltrators signet instead of blinding powder. the shadowstep is another stunbreaker and it also allows you to land important skills like heartseekers and backstabs. Unless you use shadow arts infiltrators signet is better than blinding powder.

-Use side strike (just use it)

-Executuoner: You will have fury up most of the time and factoring the boosts to prec sidestrike and fury, you will have 80% crit chance when attacking from behind or the side (or 85% if more than 90% hp). This means that backstabs crit very very often and so I’d rather take +20% damage for all my skills when the enemy is less than 50% hp. If you want a degree of certainty in your fights, use hidden killer :P

-Low vitality: Factoring borderland bloodlust and guard stacks you end up at 14k hp which is good enough imo. I dont like sacrificing damage in backstab builds. A 4k backstab puts a lot more pressure on the opponent than a 3k backstab. Each time you can you should put a dent into them after leaving stealth so they go into a small panic mode, waste dodges and more importantly don’t pressure you when you are revealed.

-Know when you can win. Don’t blindly charge into a fight with a condi heavy profession such as a necro and an engie without a backup plan. 2 6 0 0 6 cannot last in a prolonged battle against conditions. The moment hide in shadows and shadowstep are on cooldown and the opponent seems like hes ready to do bomb you with conditions, start thinking of an escape plan. For necros you can always get them to half hp then poison them, reset the fight and return to the fight with full hp

I’m from Gandara too
If you betray us … watch your back muhahaha

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Posted by: mao.9832

mao.9832

In the PvP build I would use Ogre runes instead of Pirate for that 4% dmg.
In the WvW build I would change Furious Retaliation with Signets of Power and use Infiltrator’s Signet instead of Blinding Powder as coverdale said.
Hide in Shadows over Withdraw in this build and mmh… not sure but I don’t really like the food you’re using. Try 8% dmg while moving since it’s a backstab build.

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Posted by: mPascoal.4258

mPascoal.4258

Thanks for the advices.
I don’t like being full Zerker without Shadow Arts, and I’m used to the mix Zerker, Valkyrie and Cavalier. Also I only have the offencive Guardian Stacks yet, so i need the Vitality
I’ll try different food then and side strike or signets power. The signet and blinding powder switch I was seeing coming.
The S/D suggestion is interesting, never though of that. Well right now I have to stick with solo roam, as I said my guild when it does WvW, which is kinda of a lot, does guild runs and there isn’t a dedicated roaming group, I could try create one but someday not even for a decent zerg we have ppl and stealing some for roaming group might not be all that well welcomed

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Posted by: mao.9832

mao.9832

Just roam with some friends like I do. No need to create a new guild ^o^

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