Learn the Tief - Tournament question.

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Posted by: Aliozo.3158

Aliozo.3158

Hi all Tiefs.

At the start I would like to say that if anyone of you will replay on this thread plz make sure you have at least rank 20 in PVP and by all means DO NOT put ur whine or cry or any off topic! It is very important to me to learn or understand Tief class.

I have tried to look for answers on this forum but it is full of hate and cry.
Please be very critic about what you say and lets have a nice and clear discussion.

So I got a team and we are playing as a team from the very beginning for some reason no one have ever played Tief for real. So we will need your help so we can counter some Tief builds.
Most of time we got no problem with Tiefs. Tbh most of them plaing on tournaments are really bad! But from time to time Tief. The problem mainly comes on 2 and 3 map. On secound bcoz he can easily kill on his own our Lord. On last bcoz there are a lot of 1v1.

In my opinion overall what we got problem with is that Tief goes into stelth a lot. Go away from team fight then waiting for all CD and he comes back. But that on it’s own is not a problem. Most of time Tief plays as roamer as he got great ability to run from point to point in short time. Now to details whats the problem.

Build 1:
Glass connon build with great ability to stay in stelth for as log time and go back to it very quick. Most of time he is not in team figths. His role is to burn all CD on focus person and run away to other objective without dieing.
Eg. team fight on waterfall 2v2. Tief comes from mid. Burns CD on a target (enemy dies coz of ton of overall dmg and he was not prepared that some1 will hit him from stealth for 50% hp) then he runs to Lord. The person that dies ( if he will make it in time ) goes to Lord. The Tief is there he notice that enemy approach him he goes into stealth and come back to waterfall to burn his CD on last member (point holder) that left on waterfall. And it goes like this untill Lord will die we lost 150 points. On skileed teams it is so much that the game most of cases is lost.

Build 2:
Less Glass canon build still a lot of dmg output. Main problem is that again goes into stealth a lot but this time when he goes out he spins around and is immune to all dmg. Problem with that is u cant kill him in a way. Thats is not the problem of him so much as it is the problemn that in this time other classes do tons of dmg. Yesterday we had Tief that was running away from 2 of us for about 45 sec. We could not leave him as the enemy team was trying to kill lord and he was there after team fight and we would loos the game if they would kill the lord. In the end we could not waste that much time and went to get our points back. When we did that Tief did kill the Lord and the game was lost.

Please if some1 could explain to me how we can counter that logicaly but not changing the whole team that would have been great. Atm I recon that Tiefs are winning tournaments. If any1 can convince me that is not true.

Ps. Sry for my english and a long text wall.

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

First of all (and I had to do this) its THIEF (not Tief) and THIEVES (not tiefs)

Secondly and most importantly… say what? o.O’ I did not understand what are your intentions with this post…

As for the Lord, Guardias, Warriors, Thieves, Ranges, Mesmers that i know of can solo them, probably more professions can i just haven’t seen or heard of them.
To solve this all you need is 1 person from your team to go there and kill him, to take down a Lord solo will consume most if not all CD’s and HP it should be an easy kill.

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Posted by: Aliozo.3158

Aliozo.3158

Volrath thx for pointing at my spelling misstake as I said Im not english.

Thx as well for a nice off top that I am trying to aviod.
“Secondly and most importantly… say what? o.O’ I did not understand what are your intentions with this post…”
Have you read carefully what I wrote ? Looks like not really. I will help you.
“It is very important to me to learn or understand Tief class”

“As for the Lord, Guardias, Warriors, Thieves, Ranges, Mesmers that i know of can solo them, probably more professions can i just haven’t seen or heard of them.”
Could you be so kind and give their nicks or guild name? Meaby streams ? I will not just believe it bcoz u wrote so and it’s only because I know how is that solo looks like. Anyway Thief will ran away while someone is trying to stop him. No other class or build can do that really. And then he will come back and do that again. And with his build and survi most of time noone will make in time to go back and stop him.