Guild Wars 2

TL;DR: What’s the best thing a thief is useful for using only cheerful tones and nice words?

I’ve probably been playing this game for too long, I played the Original Guild Wars, with the Assassin as my primary class and I’ve been on the Thief bandwagon since launch, and with all that time and experience behind me it’s probably a bit difficult to see straight when it comes to the seemingly counter-intuitive choices with the Thief profession over this game’s life. (I’m still not sure why nerfing Dancing Dagger was a wise choice, any circumstance where you need to use it you’re looking for a solid hit AND the cripple, if I just wanted to catch up to them I would remember I can teleport on a whim)

It seems a lot of the Thief community is upset that other professions can do what the Thief is supposed to specialize in but better. (expect a list of such ironic thefts below, I’m not going to get off topic with them) But the Thief isn’t about being the best, it’s more designed like the Engineer: as an Ikea Rocket Launcher – A device where you build it yourself, from seemingly innocuous parts, with a few bolts left over, and if everything goes to plan your target is a mostly dead corpse, if things don’t go to plan everything explodes, but it’s just as fun when it fails, because those spare bolts double up as caltrops for your escape.

The Thief seems to shine best in a highly organised group or under very controlled circumstances, planning for the worst because we probably don’t trust our weapons or armor to last the fight.

However, in light of the current environment, where it seems like all the attention and best ideas are being given to the other professions, we should steal some of their thunder and start boasting about all the amazing things our favourite class can do. We have enough places on this sub-forum to mourn the passing our our Halcyon days.

Did you know, most roaming teams require a venom share Thief to top out their damage, that’s just our Utility skills dude, we haven’t even drawn our weapons and we’re contributing more to the fight than the Mesmer.

Venom-bot, stealth-bot and +1ing all day does not sound fun.

Shh, we’re trying to be positive. And one doesn’t only do that in a fight (they might if they want to survive, but most thief players I know will happily walk into a losing fight because they like to fight and bounce and be free), a thief also can face punch a dude from 1200 distance and dance like a pretty ballerina without fear of damage during the animation.

We been positive for years, we are just fed up.

Positivity can only go so far. Patience and pragmatism, on the other hand…

Would you want to talk to someone who doesn’t appreciate your work and is fed up? Or would you want to wait them out till they finally do what they keep threatening and leave?

If you find one thing doesn’t work, why not carry out your threat? Leave the subforum and don’t post at all, for like a week. If asking for attention doesn’t work, then do the next best thing according to toddlers and hold your breath. Ignore all new info, don’t react to any of the data-mining. To pretend to keep this on topic, steal the dev’s optimism by attempting suicide of this section of the community

I’m terrified to go post in another forum for support because of the board management seeming to BAN people for expressing themselves incorrectly. Sorry for my lack of optimism. Oh and the uh, the friends I lost so far who said they didn’t want to play GW2 while Thief was so cookie cutter and weak. I uh, I apologize for the lack of their optimism. =( Sorry. My friends list kinda matters to me.

Edit: Numpad acted up. Excuse me.

Don’t give the devs any nerfing ideas.

Agemnon.4608:

Don’t give the devs any nerfing ideas.

Would they even receive them? The only relevant latest QQ I remember on thief was “2 thieves are killing me” even new players don’t bother making a nerf thread every week they could still check the Nerf Wish List. Ironically this section is turning into pre-patch necro forum.

Agemnon.4608:

Don’t give the devs any nerfing ideas.

Could we actually? I feel the Scorpion wire has too great a range and should be brought back to 1000. Heartseeker moves too far if we’ve got no target and the animation ends before we hit the ground. Blackpowder shouldn’t cause a blind field around the user but rather the target and should be smaller. Backstab is unrealistic and should be put on the sword instead. Unload should hit harder but less often, list 2 shots instead of 6. The Thief profession has been mispelled for quite a while and should be corrected to “Work in Progress – Finish by Monday”. Thieves need to become magnetically repelled by one another to avoid dangerous overuse of the critical hit system. The random items the Thief gets from stealing are too unpredictable and should be all replaced by a 2500 range tripwire instead that causes 1.5 second knock-down, if the target has stability then remove a stack of it and deal damage to both the user and target.

See it takes no effort to come up with terrible ideas, they don’t need or want our help.

Overworld.9613:

Let’s steal some optimism

Got it, how much are you willing to pay for a ‘1 handful of rusty optimism(s)’?

Overworld.9613:

TL;DR: What’s the best thing a thief is useful for using only cheerful tones and nice words?

I love math, the last time I added 1 + 1 on my thief it was a grand total of 3! More bang for my buck let me tell ya.

Selver.1307:

I love math, the last time I added 1 + 1 on my thief it was a grand total of 3! More bang for my buck let me tell ya.

:/ Wow, even math is broken on the thief…

Guess I haven’t played in so long that the thief can’t even do simple addition. Probably needs to help someone else do the math.

:P Don’t worry buddy, I’m staying cheerful and optimistic, in other games.

We can stack a lot of lifesteal and spam multihit attacks on large groups of enemies, then easily disengage when out brief godmode wad is spent. I can confidently say i can solo large groups of silver+ trash better on my thief than I can on any other class, at the cost of damage and single target ability.

I mean that’s pretty fun, just like venomshare and ninja-nursing to save a wipe is pretty fun. It’s a shame I can’t do all of that at one time in the same build.

Stealing Optimism has been nerfed.

You want optimism? Thief is the most mobile class.

No other profession can run into the meat grinder faster than Thief can!

Optimism gets slaughtered in the face of almost no morale.